'11 5.0 vs '01 SS : Driver response/Info
05-18-2010, 11:52 AM
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13.0-13.4@107-111 is what I've seen and heard. And its the same complaint from all drivers. "This thing can't hook" or "It needs better tires". I find it hard to believe the 5.0s STOCK are hitting 12.6. It would take a perfect launch with no wheel spin and great traction in between gears.
Even if it traps 112, it would need slicks to get it to 12.6 with that trap speed. No way its doing that with the stock tires.
Even if it traps 112, it would need slicks to get it to 12.6 with that trap speed. No way its doing that with the stock tires.
i would like to talk to those driver who are only hitting 13.4. who EXACTLY are they? you are quoting things that havent happened. all of my fellow 2011 GT owners are in the 12's with a few runs EVEN with 235 tires. the average 2005-2010 4.6 3v runs 13.5. come on now man. seriously.
look guys. its not your fault. you dont know much about the S-197 stock suspension. 2.0 60' is just an average driver. just average. they hook and hook with tiny tires. im sorry if you dont believe that. it doesnt change it. you'll be racing plenty of them soon enough. sure you will find drivers to run bad, but even a average driver will hit 12's easily.
05-18-2010, 11:56 AM
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05-18-2010, 11:57 AM
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the motor i mentioned all have modded intakes. but the cams are needed bad to make any real power just like every other engine.
05-18-2010, 11:58 AM
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Dosnt bother me as long as they dont talk bad about gm. Because than yeah why post here. Never said the mustang was bad i want them to come out faster. I think s/c was fine with me never had an excuse with that because im more like run what you brung. 03 cobra is the best mustang i think. I been seeing them as low as 15,000.
05-18-2010, 12:00 PM
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500rwhp with cams not sure how thats possible. That i would have to see. Cars make most of its power off heads. The cobra must have the best flowing heads to come up that much rwhp because stock they dont put out over 300rwhp 99 and up so to reach 500rwhp with just cams i dont think so..
you want a link to some of the 450-600rwhp modulars?
05-18-2010, 12:01 PM
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05-18-2010, 12:22 PM
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I am guessing you've not read other threads in this forum showing owners getting 12.6/12.7 from these cars?
I'll see if I can post a link when I get back from lunch.
<edit> Found it.
Sorry, not 12.6, but 12.7
"Ran a 12.95. Then proceeded to run a 12.81 ,12.78, and 12.77. Car is equipped with the 3.55 gear and had 21 miles on the ODO."
https://ls1tech.com/forums/13336341-post178.html
Wonder what the 3.73 geared one with DRs would do.
I'll see if I can post a link when I get back from lunch.
<edit> Found it.
Sorry, not 12.6, but 12.7
"Ran a 12.95. Then proceeded to run a 12.81 ,12.78, and 12.77. Car is equipped with the 3.55 gear and had 21 miles on the ODO."
https://ls1tech.com/forums/13336341-post178.html
Wonder what the 3.73 geared one with DRs would do.
12.95 with 3.31s is very hard to believe. And then to go on to say it ran a 12.7?
05-18-2010, 12:33 PM
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"Ran a 12.95. Then proceeded to run a 12.81 ,12.78, and 12.77. Car is equipped with the 3.55 gear and had 21 miles on the ODO."
https://ls1tech.com/forums/13336341-post178.html
05-18-2010, 12:37 PM
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BTW also in that thread
"bolton Evolution Performance car(offroad x/pipe, catback exhaust, k&n drop in air filter, tuned, upper lower control armed sawpedd... and possibly a few things I am missing) went 11.65 @ 118.84 today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4aW...layer_embedded
"bolton Evolution Performance car(offroad x/pipe, catback exhaust, k&n drop in air filter, tuned, upper lower control armed sawpedd... and possibly a few things I am missing) went 11.65 @ 118.84 today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B4aW...layer_embedded
05-18-2010, 12:42 PM
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i would like to talk to those driver who are only hitting 13.4. who EXACTLY are they? you are quoting things that havent happened. all of my fellow 2011 GT owners are in the 12's with a few runs EVEN with 235 tires. the average 2005-2010 4.6 3v runs 13.5. come on now man. seriously.
look guys. its not your fault. you dont know much about the S-197 stock suspension. 2.0 60' is just an average driver. just average. they hook and hook with tiny tires. im sorry if you dont believe that. it doesnt change it. you'll be racing plenty of them soon enough. sure you will find drivers to run bad, but even a average driver will hit 12's easily.
look guys. its not your fault. you dont know much about the S-197 stock suspension. 2.0 60' is just an average driver. just average. they hook and hook with tiny tires. im sorry if you dont believe that. it doesnt change it. you'll be racing plenty of them soon enough. sure you will find drivers to run bad, but even a average driver will hit 12's easily.
With the amount of torque the 5.0 produces coupled with the gearing and the trans gearing, there is no way mid 12s is possible on the stock,now 235, tires. It doesn't hook that well. Why do you think Evolution replaced the upper and lower control arms? It defies physics, unless your launching off of fly paper.
But I see you have a vested interest in this(being you ordered one). So I guess fair assessment is out the window. The 5.0 doesn't create the top end power necessary to overcome the wheel spin that would be generated from its setup and run a mid 12 second time in stock form. Sorry
05-18-2010, 12:46 PM
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Well then I guess you better start believing the unbelievable then.
"Ran a 12.95. Then proceeded to run a 12.81 ,12.78, and 12.77. Car is equipped with the 3.55 gear and had 21 miles on the ODO."
https://ls1tech.com/forums/13336341-post178.html
"Ran a 12.95. Then proceeded to run a 12.81 ,12.78, and 12.77. Car is equipped with the 3.55 gear and had 21 miles on the ODO."
https://ls1tech.com/forums/13336341-post178.html
05-18-2010, 12:48 PM
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My uncle used to work for Car&Driver and gives me the info on all sorts of cars. Folks are mailing C&D with their times from this 5.0. 13.0-13.4.
05-18-2010, 12:48 PM
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05-18-2010, 01:02 PM
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I have a stock 03Z06. COMPLETELY stock. My best run has been a 12.65@115.8. That's with 315s out back. There is no way a 5.0, that ways over 500lb more and just 20rwhp more can run the same time in stock trim with 235s or 245s out back.
05-18-2010, 01:10 PM
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I hope so. Hell, I hope it does run that well for the ones that bought it.
I have a stock 03Z06. COMPLETELY stock. My best run has been a 12.65@115.8. That's with 315s out back. There is no way a 5.0, that ways over 500lb more and just 20rwhp more can run the same time in stock trim with 235s or 245s out back.
I have a stock 03Z06. COMPLETELY stock. My best run has been a 12.65@115.8. That's with 315s out back. There is no way a 5.0, that ways over 500lb more and just 20rwhp more can run the same time in stock trim with 235s or 245s out back.
05-18-2010, 01:24 PM
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I think it's pretty funny that people think the 2011 GT will do mid 12's out of the box. With slicks and that mph, yes maybe. On the stock 235's, ARE YOU GUYS ON CRACK!? I own an S197. The BEST and I mean BEST ON A PERFECT DAY I could do with my stock tires was a 13.58 with a 2.0 60ft. If I gave it any RPM those suckers would break loose. My bro has a 405 WHP S197 and he does 12.4 @ 110 mph with slicks and a 1.7-1.8 60ft. I call BIG BS on mid 12's on the 2011. Some people just don't understand the physics of racing!