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Old 05-22-2010, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ss1129
Where are the non shop owned or driven GT times? Its okay to use those hero times?
LOL... I'd hardly count most magazines as hero's... Most can't drive to save their own lives. Besides, we've seen these numbers before real mods are even available, and much better times with slicks and tuning. You're only kidding yourself, thinking the new 5.0L isn't strong.

The best magazine times I've heard of are in the 12.6's, not 7's or 8's. The average G8 in stock trim doesn't net 13.0, let alone 12. anything. It's apples to oranges.
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I'm still wondering how that New 5.0 lost to that sho? With all that horsepower from the 5.0 it should have blow the SHO'S doors off! And I know the sho had a tune but that car ran low 13's at milan dragway May 19 2010 I was there! Wheres the explanation for that ford guys? This car has recieved a lot of hype so where are the results in real world races not just at attco?
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the guy in the mustang who drove that race said he passed the SHO on the top end. so this entire thread is pointless. how can any awd car get out on a street tired car? hell that sho will get out on ANY street stock tire'd car. you guys are acting like its a mystery. like its unusual for a sho to run killer 100' in nearly ANY weather.

i was at bowling green last night. how can ANY 2010 ss run 14.4's. when a 1995 lightly bolt on stang was running 13.8 @ 98. i watch ONE SS eun a 13.2, 13.4, and the rest were 14.0-14.4. how can that happen. it just does. go to camaro5.com and ASK the guys running those 2.5 60' times.the fastest 2010 SS trap was 106. im not busting them out. conditions sucked. drivers were inexperienced. does that mean the CAR is slow and only has 350hp? nope.
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where are the HERO SS times? i could have driven the caddy and run faster.with 4 passengers.
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Remember stock G8 GXP - 12s capable > stock G8 GT - mid 13s.
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Originally Posted by 02 wife
I'm still wondering how that New 5.0 lost to that sho? With all that horsepower from the 5.0 it should have blow the SHO'S doors off! And I know the sho had a tune but that car ran low 13's at milan dragway May 19 2010 I was there! Wheres the explanation for that ford guys? This car has recieved a lot of hype so where are the results in real world races not just at attco?
It stands to reason, 1 RWD car vs 1 AWD car, on unprepped pavement that didn't look to be 1/4 mile long to start. The AWD car was tuned and surely had more than stock hp(which is like 365) while the RWD car evidently was entirely stock as far as actual tuning goes... It's not a surprise that the RWD caught up at the end, but got out hussled on the start.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
the guy in the mustang who drove that race said he passed the SHO on the top end. so this entire thread is pointless. how can any awd car get out on a street tired car? hell that sho will get out on ANY street stock tire'd car. you guys are acting like its a mystery. like its unusual for a sho to run killer 100' in nearly ANY weather.

i was at bowling green last night. how can ANY 2010 ss run 14.4's. when a 1995 lightly bolt on stang was running 13.8 @ 98. i watch ONE SS eun a 13.2, 13.4, and the rest were 14.0-14.4. how can that happen. it just does. go to camaro5.com and ASK the guys running those 2.5 60' times.the fastest 2010 SS trap was 106. im not busting them out. conditions sucked. drivers were inexperienced. does that mean the CAR is slow and only has 350hp? nope.
I raced that very SHO at milan dragway 5/19/10 and killed it! That 5.0 should have caught it! There was no wheel spin in the videos. He lost all he races it should not have been close? When you get your car run it stock and see how you do.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
It stands to reason, 1 RWD car vs 1 AWD car, on unprepped pavement that didn't look to be 1/4 mile long to start. The AWD car was tuned and surely had more than stock hp(which is like 365) while the RWD car evidently was entirely stock as far as actual tuning goes... It's not a surprise that the RWD caught up at the end, but got out hussled on the start.
I saw that very Sho run and I raced against it! it ran 13.67 at 99.13mph against me. If these 5.0 are running 12's out the box that sho should have been blow away.
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Originally Posted by 02 wife
I saw that very Sho run and I raced against it! it ran 13.67 at 99.13mph against me. If these 5.0 are running 12's out the box that sho should have been blow away.
what ever, you are the know it all. oh GOd of tuned SHO knowledge.
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Originally Posted by 02 wife
I raced that very SHO at milan dragway 5/19/10 and killed it! That 5.0 should have caught it!
Really? No kidding? So you're saying you killed a 13.0 car with a 11.90 car? Holy ****...stop the presses!!! eek:

I went for a ride in the Livernois owned SHO. It moves nicely and I can see why any stock car would have trouble racing it
from a dig. The AWD is outstanding for getting out of the hole.
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Originally Posted by unit213
Really? No kidding? So you're saying you killed a 13.0 car with a 11.90 car? Holy ****...stop the presses!!! eek:

I went for a ride in the Livernois owned SHO. It moves nicely and I can see why any stock car would have trouble racing it
from a dig. The AWD is outstanding for getting out of the hole.
I wasnt saying anything special about my car running the sho! What I am saying with all the hype on this new 5.0 running 12's out the box it should have kept up and passed the sho. I only mentioned the fact that I raced it was to prove I seen the sho run in person.
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Unit is at it again with that sarcasm. Damn it, made me spit up my soda.
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Originally Posted by 02 wife
I wasnt saying anything special about my car running the sho! What I am saying with all the hype on this new 5.0 running 12's out the box it should have kept up and passed the sho. I only mentioned the fact that I raced it was to prove I seen the sho run in person.
It did at higher speeds as they are saying. It's not like it's a factory sho, it's been tuned. It runs 13.0/1 quarter mile and the guys at liverpool said they are going to try and pass some 12s on 5/19 at the track. Perhaps they can chime in some more on how that went.
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Originally Posted by 02 wife
I wasnt saying anything special about my car running the sho! What I am saying with all the hype on this new 5.0 running 12's out the box it should have kept up and passed the sho. I only mentioned the fact that I raced it was to prove I seen the sho run in person.
You do understand that you're talking about a 12.80 car (Mustang) vs. a 13.0 car (SHO) right? Are you seriously arguing about 2 tenths of a second about a race
on the street? Think about that for a second. This is the real world. In your mind, you're saying "13.0-12.8 = .2 seconds...Mustang wins". It doesn't work that way.


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I only mentioned the fact that I raced it was to prove I seen the sho run in person.
A very good friend of mine owns the SHO.
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i must confess im very impressed with the new sho. makes me have some respect for ford now.
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Originally Posted by 02 wife
I saw that very Sho run and I raced against it! it ran 13.67 at 99.13mph against me. If these 5.0 are running 12's out the box that sho should have been blow away.
What a car runs on a prepped track might just be better than on a dusty street... Unless it has AWD... Not to mention they don't seem to cover a 1/4 mile in the video before having to slow down.

One may run a second or more slower on the street than on a track, covering an actual 1/4 mile. A good driver may seem to drive just fine, maintaining traction and all... But who's to say how hard that driver steps on the throttle while on the street, vs hammering it at the track.

Way back when, I ran low 11's on the same tires I drove everywhere on... I think the car still ran 11's on the street(well, had I raced), but there's no way I could get the same launch and I knew it. That "feathering the throttle" takes away in a major fashion. Races are won and lost AT the starting line.

In cases like these, it's all about traction.
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This is why vehicles like my Syclone were so dominant and still are in some cases. My truck ran 13.5 at about 99 mph in the quarter stock, but it can repeat that every time on the street (until the trans blows up of course...lol). It got out of the hole really hard on street tires and it would usually force a mistake out of a faster vehicle. 99 mph is getting pulled by most these days on top as my truck is still stock, but 0-80 is very strong. That looks like the case with the SHO versus that GT. The GT looked to be pulling on top, but it was too little too late.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
Races are won and lost AT the starting line.

In cases like these, it's all about traction.
Correct, in cases like this particular one it is about traction. However, I have seen cars that will pull an OK at best 60' but pull so hard that at the 1000' mark they blow past everything. Supra's are good examples of that, not the best ET or 60' but a terrific MPH. It all depends on the car, setup, and driver.
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Originally Posted by 02 wife
I'm still wondering how that New 5.0 lost to that sho? With all that horsepower from the 5.0 it should have blow the SHO'S doors off! And I know the sho had a tune but that car ran low 13's at milan dragway May 19 2010 I was there! Wheres the explanation for that ford guys? This car has recieved a lot of hype so where are the results in real world races not just at attco?
Originally Posted by 02 wife
I raced that very SHO at milan dragway 5/19/10 and killed it! That 5.0 should have caught it! There was no wheel spin in the videos. He lost all he races it should not have been close? When you get your car run it stock and see how you do.
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I saw that very Sho run and I raced against it! it ran 13.67 at 99.13mph against me. If these 5.0 are running 12's out the box that sho should have been blow away.
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I wasnt saying anything special about my car running the sho! What I am saying with all the hype on this new 5.0 running 12's out the box it should have kept up and passed the sho. I only mentioned the fact that I raced it was to prove I seen the sho run in person.
I'm starting to think you are not only the biggest nuthugger currently a member in the SRK section, but also the most ignorant.
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You do understand that you're talking about a 12.80 car (Mustang) vs. a 13.0 car (SHO) right? Are you seriously arguing about 2 tenths of a second about a race
on the street? Think about that for a second. This is the real world. In your mind, you're saying "13.0-12.8 = .2 seconds...Mustang wins". It doesn't work that way.




A very good friend of mine owns the SHO.
Is he really worth responding to anymore?










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Originally Posted by LivernoisMotorsports
I was driving the SHO. I'm going to the track tonight hoping for 12's.
The G8 is our shop car as well. It has our stage 1C (stealth) camshaft, 1 7/8" shorty headers, Corsa Exhaust, Rotofab CAI, and Livernois Dyno Tune and makes 455 RWHP. It would kill both of those cars.
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So what did you run?????
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