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Old 05-21-2010, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SLOW GTO
Yup I was there and my dad was there too in the C6 ZR1 inside there shop. I’m good friends with Larry; Speed Inc has done all the dyno tunning on my car. I highly recommend them to anyone! Larry and Jim and the rest of the crew are great people!
+1 on that. Great guys there. Got my car tuned there. Prolly get a retune at the end of the summer when the cam goes in.
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ur car deff runs hard just goes to show you how much the driver plays a part even in a roll race ive raced a stock z06 and got walkkkkkked hard and also have raced my buddy's big turbo sti that trapped 121.8 and only lost by a car
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nice, run you car definitely moves. Your car sounds sick in person too, i was the one behind you in the cts-v as you left modern muscle. Also if you dont mind, i would like to run against your gto, I'm just curious to see how my v will do. I just got my clutch issues taken care of and havent had a chance to go to the track or run anyone yet with my new set up.
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Nice run! Gotta love H/C/I LS2's.
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Originally Posted by SLOW GTO
Hey buddy i dont know what to tell you, WE all though for sure the Z06 was going to pull me hard, I did a video the night before the race to see what my 60 to 150mph is, I know Im in the LOW 3sec range 0 to 60, and from 60 to 150 only takes my car around 14 sec. So 3+14 puts me around the 17sec range 0 to 150. So after i showed my dad that he was like humm.. well i think this will be close lol.
here is the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jk730d5IvI
and here is a video of my car at byron, just the speedo, sorry for the zoom in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASgNJ...eature=channel

I think the big yank PT 4400 converter eats some of my mph in the 1/4 mile.





To be honest, im not sure yet, Im still undecided if i want to pull the trigger and install the Stroker 416cid, or Just sell the GTO and get a Z06, You can find a 2006 C6 Z06 pretty darn cheap now a days and same with a C5 Z06. Still not sure, I love the GTO to death, have had it since 07 new, and has been a blast to build and drive. But when its all said and done its still just a GTO lol. A sleeper GTO that is

Damn, the hit on that converter is incredible. I think I need to call Dave and upgrade after seeing that!

Secondly, I just chuckle when you say that your full weight GTO is 39xx with you in it....hardly the "fat pig" people make them out to be.
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Your GTO moves for sure. That was a damn close race!!! Props to you for your nice setup!! I love GTOs! I was planning to sell my SS to get one...
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Awsome cars man.

I got a kick out of the first video though.

1. You guys runnin 150mph and what flashes past? A F*ckin driveway and a house lol...

2. After your brother hits 150 and the race is over your father's tone "slow down" would make you think your brother was going like 65 in a 50 lmao... Be safe.
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Originally Posted by redctsv
nice, run you car definitely moves. Your car sounds sick in person too, i was the one behind you in the cts-v as you left modern muscle. Also if you dont mind, i would like to run against your gto, I'm just curious to see how my v will do. I just got my clutch issues taken care of and havent had a chance to go to the track or run anyone yet with my new set up.
Hey buddy, I remember you. You think my car sounds sick in person, you should here your CTSV It sounds so mean, when you turned on to Dougless rd. But anyways yes im always up for a new race, win lose or draw its always fun, i do go to the dragstrip quite often, byron and gld for the most part. Next time i head out you should tag aglong.

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Nice run! Gotta love H/C/I LS2's.
I sure do! Nice ZR1 by the way, my father just picked up a black one. What an awsome car!
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Awsome cars man.

I got a kick out of the first video though.

1. You guys runnin 150mph and what flashes past? A F*ckin driveway and a house lol...

2. After your brother hits 150 and the race is over your father's tone "slow down" would make you think your brother was going like 65 in a 50 lmao... Be safe.
The road in which we where racing on is owned by the farmers. It’s no secret that they (the farmers) have been drag racing on these roads since drag racing started. They showed me the deeds to their properties, and the roads in front of their houses are owned by them. (I’m serious!). I live out in the country, i know everyone in the area, all old farmers, we barely get any traffic out here, mostly all farm land out by me. I dont drive reckless, we did this run with no one on else on the road. I felt as tho it was much safer out by me then going out on the highway, and i dont really like racing at night either. And it does not take long for either one of our cars to get up to 150 and back down to 60 mph safely. I do not condone street racing, as such, but this is a little different.
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Badass race!! What H/C/I you running?

Originally Posted by SLOW GTO
Im running a Mickey Thompson ET Street. and my trans is stock, I was told by a few trans builders that the stock 4L65E can hold 500RWHP, as long as you keep the fluid cool and dont burn it. So im running a big transcooler, and also a deep trans pan with fins to keep that fluid cold! I always change my trans fluid every oil change, about every 2,500 mi.
Dexron VI i assume? I've heard enough horror stories about Dexron IV and V. Also, a local builder and friend of mine built the fastest Hummer in Washington. Thing was at 900rwhp for 1 year before the 4L65E went out. The STOCK 4L65E! He told me as long as you keep the temps down he doesnt worry until you pass 600rwhp N/A or F/I. It's the nitrous hits that kill them he said.
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Originally Posted by maxspeed05V
Wish I could have the exterior of the CTS-V with the interior of the GTO .
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That is my thought EXACTLY.


Now to the op i know exactly where those roads are haha

Ill be honest that i was amazed by the results of this race, i really expected the Z to just walk away and keep walking away. Amazing.
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Originally Posted by redctsv
Also if you dont mind, i would like to run against your gto, I'm just curious to see how my v will do.
What's done to the V?
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great vidz...what does your car put down on the dyno?
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[QUOTE=SLOW GTO;13365741]Hey buddy, I remember you. You think my car sounds sick in person, you should here your CTSV It sounds so mean, when you turned on to Dougless rd. But anyways yes im always up for a new race, win lose or draw its always fun, i do go to the dragstrip quite often, byron and gld for the most part. Next time i head out you should tag aglong.

Awesome, i'm the same way too, win lose or draw its all about having fun. Just let me know when and i'm there. I'll pm you my info.

screaminredz here is a link to my dyno run, mods are a few posts down. https://ls1tech.com/forums/cadillac-...-dyno-vid.html

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Originally Posted by SAPS
great vidz...what does your car put down on the dyno?
My best power pull so far was 457rwhp but only put down 395 rwtq, im sure if it was a cooler day and not so humid the car would have put down more around the 460rwhp range. My other dyno pull is 452rwhp and 401 rwtq. Again this is going through a big stall 4,400 and a 391 gear. I know the Gear eats at least 20+ rwhp on the dyno.


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Originally Posted by Johnnystock
Your GTO moves for sure. That was a damn close race!!! Props to you for your nice setup!! I love GTOs! I was planning to sell my SS to get one...
Thank you, If you do get a gto make sure to get an 05 or 06!
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[QUOTE=SLOW GTO;13366488]

Awesome numbers considering the huge stall and gears. In a 6-spd car that setup would be very close to the 500 mark n/a. Very impressive.
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Im gonna say somthing Ive never said about a GTO....

IMPRESSIVE

As for the 121 mph trapp speed..

Guys stop smokeing that stuff..Go to the Z06 fast list on the vette forum and check it out...127 mph is the top of the top..

122-125 is average..

BUT

Dont forget the Z06 had two people inside. Z06's do not like weight..Remember it's just a lil 445 rwhp car wich in it's self is nothing special..What is special is 3150 pounds plus a 200 pound driver and 445 rwhp plus a 3350 pound race weight..


I raced my friends stock Z06 with 455 rwhp when my Viper was 470 rwhp and he could pull me by 2 cars every time by 130 mph..

We both did the same exact runs but this time we both had our equal weight wives in the car..

For what ever reason the tables were now turned and now the Viper was continuously a car ahead by 130 mph..

Z06's dont like weight!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Killemall
Im gonna say somthing Ive never said about a GTO....

IMPRESSIVE

As for the 121 mph trapp speed..

Guys stop smokeing that stuff..Go to the Z06 fast list on the vette forum and check it out...127 mph is the top of the top..

122-125 is average..

BUT

Dont forget the Z06 had two people inside. Z06's do not like weight..Remember it's just a lil 445 rwhp car wich in it's self is nothing special..What is special is 3150 pounds plus a 200 pound driver and 445 rwhp plus a 3350 pound race weight..


I raced my friends stock Z06 with 455 rwhp when my Viper was 470 rwhp and he could pull me by 2 cars every time by 130 mph..

We both did the same exact runs but this time we both had our equal weight wives in the car..

For what ever reason the tables were now turned and now the Viper was continuously a car ahead by 130 mph..

Z06's dont like weight!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for the compliments, as for the Z06 and its weight problems, i don't want to here about it lol my GTO has its own weight problems 3900lbs lol but anyways nice viper what do you have done to be at 470rwhp? Im guess just some Headers and exhaust and a cold air kit?
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Originally Posted by Killemall
I raced my friends stock Z06 with 455 rwhp when my Viper was 470 rwhp and he could pull me by 2 cars every time by 130 mph..

We both did the same exact runs but this time we both had our equal weight wives in the car..

For what ever reason the tables were now turned and now the Viper was continuously a car ahead by 130 mph.
So I assume your Viper wasn't stock and his C6 Z was. In 99% of cases a C6 Z will walk a Gen III pretty good on the top end.
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GTO...that dyno run must have been with the converter locked, right?

What H/C is in that beast?
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if 127 trap is on the top how did ranger do 129.50 ops gto runs awsome especially with a stalled auto from a roll but with the correct driver zo6 is a beast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zv5RDzwS4g


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