My Z28 vs Ported Cobra
07-08-2010, 10:57 AM
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wow. whats not too believe? the z makes about 520 and i bet that cobra makes close to 520. same power and same weight as the z has a passenger. as I have stated in many threads I think you guys all race weak and poorly driven cobras........
his camaro has proven track times to shows there is nothing wrong with it. this place is purley entertainment..... keep up the good work.
his camaro has proven track times to shows there is nothing wrong with it. this place is purley entertainment..... keep up the good work.
07-08-2010, 11:19 AM
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wow. whats not too believe? the z makes about 520 and i bet that cobra makes close to 520. same power and same weight as the z has a passenger. as I have stated in many threads I think you guys all race weak and poorly driven cobras........
his camaro has proven track times to shows there is nothing wrong with it. this place is purley entertainment..... keep up the good work.
his camaro has proven track times to shows there is nothing wrong with it. this place is purley entertainment..... keep up the good work.
Ironically enough, the people who flame for said lack of building, tuning, and driving skills are usually the people with the slowest or most stock cars.
07-08-2010, 03:52 PM
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It's due to an air/fuel issue that's causing me to run a richer jet than it's supposed to take. There are multiple threads in the dyno and nitrous sections about it and I have a few ideas on how to fix it. I'm hoping to fix it soon so I can up the shot.
07-08-2010, 04:14 PM
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RedZ..I just noticed you said your bottle pressure was 750? that would make or break a race right there. I know when Im running a 100 shot, and my bottle pressure is anything lower then 800, it doesnt feel right....and anything from 900-1000 hits HARD and pulls hard through every gear
go fill your bottle, make sure you pressure is up over 900, and post back the results! That few hundred psi increase can surprise you!
go fill your bottle, make sure you pressure is up over 900, and post back the results! That few hundred psi increase can surprise you!
07-08-2010, 04:21 PM
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SRZ did you ever check your cranking compression? Something is obviously up with your setup, no offense but that's the slowest set of $2000+ heads I've ever seen. I'd honestly be pissed. I've ran 11.7 @ 118 at 2300' elevation this summer (only been to the track twice) with a 224 cam and 243 heads. Not trying to start a pissing match but you've known for a long time something is up with your car.
07-08-2010, 04:42 PM
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RedZ..I just noticed you said your bottle pressure was 750? that would make or break a race right there. I know when Im running a 100 shot, and my bottle pressure is anything lower then 800, it doesnt feel right....and anything from 900-1000 hits HARD and pulls hard through every gear
go fill your bottle, make sure you pressure is up over 900, and post back the results! That few hundred psi increase can surprise you!
go fill your bottle, make sure you pressure is up over 900, and post back the results! That few hundred psi increase can surprise you!
The bottle is filled for the rematch whenever that happens.SRZ did you ever check your cranking compression? Something is obviously up with your setup, no offense but that's the slowest set of $2000+ heads I've ever seen. I'd honestly be pissed. I've ran 11.7 @ 118 at 2300' elevation this summer (only been to the track twice) with a 224 cam and 243 heads. Not trying to start a pissing match but you've known for a long time something is up with your car.
Past this point it's all speculation, but I still have the stock LS6 intake, so I bet a FAST will be worth 10/5 putting me at 450/396 (we'll find out since I have one in my possession now). Take out the 12-bolt and heavy driveshaft and reinstall a stock drivetrain and I'd be sitting over 460 rwhp and 400 rwtq.
I think everyone (myself included) is just use to seeing the hail mary cars that make 480 with heads and cam and they don't realize that more cars actually under 450.
As for the track numbers, my only time out with the setup I trapped 2 mph faster than PSM did in similar weather with his mild heads/cam. I'm sure with a little more practice I'll be running faster than 11.5 at 120-121 mph.
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07-08-2010, 06:46 PM
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Great runs man that blower wine is loud,Your car runs strong for what it is.I think the blower car is going down next time you run him with the bottle pressure were its gotta be.
07-08-2010, 08:10 PM
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SRZ did you ever check your cranking compression? Something is obviously up with your setup, no offense but that's the slowest set of $2000+ heads I've ever seen. I'd honestly be pissed. I've ran 11.7 @ 118 at 2300' elevation this summer (only been to the track twice) with a 224 cam and 243 heads. Not trying to start a pissing match but you've known for a long time something is up with your car.
Give him his 8rwhp back for the nitrous tune and he's at 440, another 10-15 for the heavy drivetrain (vs the stock 10-bolt and 3.42s that you see so much in the dyno section) and he's up to 450-455, then another 10-15 from the FAST intake he has sitting in his trunk waiting to be installed and he's up to 460-470. There is nothing wrong with that car's hp numbers on motor.
Show me another TFS 215 / 230's cam LS1 with a stock LS6 intake, a heavy rear (12-bolt, 9-inch, etc), steep gearing, and a nitrous tune that's putting down higher than 432 SAE. Good luck with your search.
As far as the bottle pressure and other variables in this race go, I personally believe that with a passenger in the Cobra, a full bottle with optimum bottle pressure, and the cutout open, it will be a different race. But SRZ made it clear before we even got home from the races that he's not gonna whine about bottle pressure or uneven passengers or any of those lame excuses that people so often like to throw out there. This is how it went down.
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07-08-2010, 08:14 PM
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As SRZ said above, his car put down 432 rwhp with a stock LS6 intake, through a 12-bolt with 4.10s, and on a nitrous tune. What the hell more do you want from TFS 215's and a medium sized cam through all of those power-robbing variables? He trapped just about 120 at LVD (which is a less than stellar track) in a 2000+ DA full weight. I for one am failing to see the issue here.
Give him his 8rwhp back for the nitrous tune and he's at 440, another 10-15 for the heavy drivetrain (vs a stock 10-bolt and 3.42s that you see so much in the dyno section) and he's up to 450-455, then another 10-15 from the FAST intake he has sitting in his trunk waiting to be installed and he's up to 460-470. There is nothing wrong with that car's hp numbers on motor.
Show me another TFS 215 / 230's cam LS1 with a stock LS6 intake, a heavy rear (12-bolt, 9-inch, etc), steep gearing, and a nitrous tune that's putting down higher than 432 SAE. Good luck with your search.
Give him his 8rwhp back for the nitrous tune and he's at 440, another 10-15 for the heavy drivetrain (vs a stock 10-bolt and 3.42s that you see so much in the dyno section) and he's up to 450-455, then another 10-15 from the FAST intake he has sitting in his trunk waiting to be installed and he's up to 460-470. There is nothing wrong with that car's hp numbers on motor.
Show me another TFS 215 / 230's cam LS1 with a stock LS6 intake, a heavy rear (12-bolt, 9-inch, etc), steep gearing, and a nitrous tune that's putting down higher than 432 SAE. Good luck with your search.
+1 on lebanon being a crappy track...
07-08-2010, 08:26 PM
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As SRZ said above, his car put down 432 rwhp with a stock LS6 intake, through a 12-bolt with 4.10s, and on a nitrous tune. What the hell more do you want from TFS 215's and a medium sized cam through all of those power-robbing variables? He trapped just about 120 at LVD (which is a less than stellar track) in a 2000+ DA full weight. I, for one, am failing to see the issue here.
Give him his 8rwhp back for the nitrous tune and he's at 440, another 10-15 for the heavy drivetrain (vs the stock 10-bolt and 3.42s that you see so much in the dyno section) and he's up to 450-455, then another 10-15 from the FAST intake he has sitting in his trunk waiting to be installed and he's up to 460-470. There is nothing wrong with that car's hp numbers on motor.
Show me another TFS 215 / 230's cam LS1 with a stock LS6 intake, a heavy rear (12-bolt, 9-inch, etc), steep gearing, and a nitrous tune that's putting down higher than 432 SAE. Good luck with your search.
As far as the bottle pressure and other variables in this race go, I personally believe that with a passenger in the Cobra, a full bottle with optimum bottle pressure, and the cutout open, it will be a different race. But SRZ made it clear before we even got home from the races that he's not gonna whine about bottle pressure or uneven passengers or any of those lame excuses that people so often like to throw out there. This is how it went down.
Give him his 8rwhp back for the nitrous tune and he's at 440, another 10-15 for the heavy drivetrain (vs the stock 10-bolt and 3.42s that you see so much in the dyno section) and he's up to 450-455, then another 10-15 from the FAST intake he has sitting in his trunk waiting to be installed and he's up to 460-470. There is nothing wrong with that car's hp numbers on motor.
Show me another TFS 215 / 230's cam LS1 with a stock LS6 intake, a heavy rear (12-bolt, 9-inch, etc), steep gearing, and a nitrous tune that's putting down higher than 432 SAE. Good luck with your search.
As far as the bottle pressure and other variables in this race go, I personally believe that with a passenger in the Cobra, a full bottle with optimum bottle pressure, and the cutout open, it will be a different race. But SRZ made it clear before we even got home from the races that he's not gonna whine about bottle pressure or uneven passengers or any of those lame excuses that people so often like to throw out there. This is how it went down.