My Z28 vs Ported Cobra
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Guess I just have too high of expectations for my money. I'm running a 9" with 4.11s. When I opened my cutout the track went away and I ran an 11.78 @ 118 mph with 1.75 60' when my best 60' was a 1.65. That's all at a track at 2300' elevation in the summer, 3000+ da. I'm doing that with unported 243s and a 224 cam. If you don't optimize your setup it won't like it should. With a 230s cam and trickflows I'd hope to gain atleast 40 rwhp. My times currently correct to over 121 mph at a sea level times. I guess if you're happy with the performance from your high dollar heads than more power to you. But maybe if you want to take some advice from others your setup could run even harder.
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I find nothing wrong with your car. It seems to run on par for your mods. Putting on a FAST 90/90 would definitely help you out, though. I am, however, surprised at how well the Cobra ran.
I'll also be interested to see whatll happen with better pressure and equal passengers. Or even run him with PSM sitting in the Cobra to see the difference his skinny *** makes.
I kid, i kid.
Too bad ya'll are so far away, it seems like a lot of stout cars are around you. Id love to run with ya'll.
I'll also be interested to see whatll happen with better pressure and equal passengers. Or even run him with PSM sitting in the Cobra to see the difference his skinny *** makes.
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Too bad ya'll are so far away, it seems like a lot of stout cars are around you. Id love to run with ya'll.
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Sweet runs SRZ. I love nice clear in car runs! Everytime you put up a vid, it's perfect filming! Keep it up. And not sure why everyones bashing. It's like your all forgetting the fact that terminators wiped the streets when they first came out. It's a bad *** motor in those cars and I think SRZ's car held it's own with it. Who knows, cobra could have one hell of a tune.
And do you ever go to the pike anymore SRZ? Went last saturday and was hoping to see a few people but all I ever see is just Todd.
And do you ever go to the pike anymore SRZ? Went last saturday and was hoping to see a few people but all I ever see is just Todd.
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Sweet runs SRZ. I love nice clear in car runs! Everytime you put up a vid, it's perfect filming! Keep it up. And not sure why everyones bashing. It's like your all forgetting the fact that terminators wiped the streets when they first came out. It's a bad *** motor in those cars and I think SRZ's car held it's own with it. Who knows, cobra could have one hell of a tune.
And do you ever go to the pike anymore SRZ? Went last saturday and was hoping to see a few people but all I ever see is just Todd.
And do you ever go to the pike anymore SRZ? Went last saturday and was hoping to see a few people but all I ever see is just Todd.
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I also have to say that one thing I like about the bike crowd more than the car crowd is that when we meet up on bikes, the intent is to go out and ride, and we do. With the car guys, it's typically "Let's all stand around and talk for a few hours, maybe about how my car is faster than this one but not that one, so I won't race that one because I might lose, but I'll race this guy because I'll definitely beat him..." and then they never end up even going out to run, nevermind cruise around for a while. It's all about looking cool in a parking space and talking dyno numbers. BOOOOOOOO.
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Sweet runs SRZ. I love nice clear in car runs! Everytime you put up a vid, it's perfect filming! Keep it up. And not sure why everyones bashing. It's like your all forgetting the fact that terminators wiped the streets when they first came out. It's a bad *** motor in those cars and I think SRZ's car held it's own with it. Who knows, cobra could have one hell of a tune.
And do you ever go to the pike anymore SRZ? Went last saturday and was hoping to see a few people but all I ever see is just Todd.
And do you ever go to the pike anymore SRZ? Went last saturday and was hoping to see a few people but all I ever see is just Todd.
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Guess I just have too high of expectations for my money. I'm running a 9" with 4.11s. When I opened my cutout the track went away and I ran an 11.78 @ 118 mph with 1.75 60' when my best 60' was a 1.65. That's all at a track at 2300' elevation in the summer, 3000+ da. I'm doing that with unported 243s and a 224 cam. If you don't optimize your setup it won't like it should. With a 230s cam and trickflows I'd hope to gain atleast 40 rwhp. My times currently correct to over 121 mph at a sea level times. I guess if you're happy with the performance from your high dollar heads than more power to you. But maybe if you want to take some advice from others your setup could run even harder.
For some history on my track numbers, when I first got my cam in (stock driveline) I made 420 rwhp and trapped 117.9 mph. After getting the 12-bolt, heavier driveshaft, heavy wheels, nitrous tune, and putting an UD pulley on the car I was sitting at 400 rwhp. After some practice I was still able to hit 117.1 mph (due to my being a better driver than a couple years prior when I ran the 117.9). After swapping my 26" tires for a set of 28" tires the car never did better than 115.x mph at that track due to the gearing differences and heavier rotating weight, I'm guessing. After swapping the heads, I trapped 119.7 my only time with it, which means I gained 4 mph (same 28" wheel/tire combo as when I was trapping 115). How much more can you expect? I made 3 passes that day and every one was over 119 mph. A little more seat time with the combo and I'll be hitting 120 in the same air, and probably 122 in better air at the same track.
Now on the spray there is definitely an air/fuel problem which I haven't started playing around with yet, but that's why I stick with the 100 shot. Once I get that fixed up and start hitting it with the 150 then the car will be a much stronger player in the street game.
I appreciate that people are trying to help find a "problem", and I know that in previous threads I've asked for it, but even if I did a compression check and things were a little off, I'm not going to tear the motor apart right now, so I don't see the point until I'm ready to go to town with it. I know the car runs good and there are members on here, who made significantly more hp than me that I walked away from, who can verify that, haha.
That's why this race was so fun. We met up in the afternoon on a Friday, got coffee, cruised a bit, lined up the cars and got a couple real nice race videos. No one was acting tough, no one was whining about this or that being unfair, everyone gave props after the race and agreed that another race would be fun with a full bottle and equal passengers, and that some motor runs would be nice to do as well.
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Guess I just have too high of expectations for my money. I'm running a 9" with 4.11s. When I opened my cutout the track went away and I ran an 11.78 @ 118 mph with 1.75 60' when my best 60' was a 1.65. That's all at a track at 2300' elevation in the summer, 3000+ da. I'm doing that with unported 243s and a 224 cam. If you don't optimize your setup it won't like it should. With a 230s cam and trickflows I'd hope to gain atleast 40 rwhp. My times currently correct to over 121 mph at a sea level times. I guess if you're happy with the performance from your high dollar heads than more power to you. But maybe if you want to take some advice from others your setup could run even harder.
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BTW...correcting trap speeds is extremely gay.
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I was there for a while. I'm there most Saturdays, but I probably won't be up there tomorrow, just as a heads up. Just watch for a blue/black GSXR 600. I do have a tendency to ride a lot more than hang out when I'm up there now that I have the bike, especially since I get like 50+ mpg gallon just cruising around. ![Icon Lol](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/icon_lol.gif)
I also have to say that one thing I like about the bike crowd more than the car crowd is that when we meet up on bikes, the intent is to go out and ride, and we do. With the car guys, it's typically "Let's all stand around and talk for a few hours, maybe about how my car is faster than this one but not that one, so I won't race that one because I might lose, but I'll race this guy because I'll definitely beat him..." and then they never end up even going out to run, nevermind cruise around for a while. It's all about looking cool in a parking space and talking dyno numbers. BOOOOOOOO.
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I also have to say that one thing I like about the bike crowd more than the car crowd is that when we meet up on bikes, the intent is to go out and ride, and we do. With the car guys, it's typically "Let's all stand around and talk for a few hours, maybe about how my car is faster than this one but not that one, so I won't race that one because I might lose, but I'll race this guy because I'll definitely beat him..." and then they never end up even going out to run, nevermind cruise around for a while. It's all about looking cool in a parking space and talking dyno numbers. BOOOOOOOO.
Thanks, man! I try to get up there occassionally, but I get very sick of the same bullshit all the time. Idiots racing from every light even though they know it's a bad spot and are drawing unwanted attention. Idiots acting out Tokyo Drift in the parking lots, running over pedestrians. ******** that run certain cruise nights and act like they own the world because they have money. Then there's always the people that talk ****, but will never race anyone because they might lose. It's just tiring after a while. I honestly have more fun just driving around or meeting up with friends on Sunday or during the week for our own little mini cruises.
That's why this race was so fun. We met up in the afternoon on a Friday, got coffee, cruised a bit, lined up the cars and got a couple real nice race videos. No one was acting tough, no one was whining about this or that being unfair, everyone gave props after the race and agreed that another race would be fun with a full bottle and equal passengers, and that some motor runs would be nice to do as well.
That's why this race was so fun. We met up in the afternoon on a Friday, got coffee, cruised a bit, lined up the cars and got a couple real nice race videos. No one was acting tough, no one was whining about this or that being unfair, everyone gave props after the race and agreed that another race would be fun with a full bottle and equal passengers, and that some motor runs would be nice to do as well.
Just last sat there was a kid with a bolt on SRT4 neon saying his car ran 12's bone stock and he was trying to run an 11.6 turbo civic for 500$. I really came close to busting out laughing on that one! And the funny thing was, the kid with the civic was actually pretty car smart. Such a classic crowd down there. It's good for laughs at the very least! I'll keep my eye out for ya still since I'm there almost every Sat.
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Yes I could use some help on suspension setup / launching as the only thing I've done is set pinion angle. If you'd like to lend a hand and come help set the car up I'd appreciate it.
Good videos and if you're happy with the car thats all that matters.
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ScreaminredZ- I think your car runs good. I do think with a full bottle and equal weight you will win. Your car is a lot lighter with better gearing. I would like to see different runs....like different rolls and digs. Just hope the Cobra guy doesnt keep racing again and again cuz heatsoak is a bitch. BTW- Your attitude torwards racing is awsome. You just like to race what ya brung and have fun and with no excuses thats how it should be.
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ScreaminredZ- I think your car runs good. I do think with a full bottle and equal weight you will win. Your car is a lot lighter with better gearing. I would like to see different runs....like different rolls and digs. Just hope the Cobra guy doesnt keep racing again and again cuz heatsoak is a bitch. BTW- Your attitude torwards racing is awsome. You just like to race what ya brung and have fun and with no excuses thats how it should be.
Also. Just because you can get a nitrous bottle to the correct pressure dont mean you will get a clean hit. If you have to heat a bottle to the point it switches to a gas even with bottle pressure the hit will add much less power due to losing the cooling effects of the nitrous. Just adding my .02 C
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I have a friend with a 427R Roush that upgraded to the TVR blower. I'm not sure what he trapped last time we went to LVD but he walked away from me like I was in the wrong gear when we lined up on the highway. He didn't pull me quite as hard as his friend's pullied GT500, though, for a reference.
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ScreaminredZ- I think your car runs good. I do think with a full bottle and equal weight you will win. Your car is a lot lighter with better gearing. I would like to see different runs....like different rolls and digs. Just hope the Cobra guy doesnt keep racing again and again cuz heatsoak is a bitch. BTW- Your attitude torwards racing is awsome. You just like to race what ya brung and have fun and with no excuses thats how it should be.
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Also. Just because you can get a nitrous bottle to the correct pressure dont mean you will get a clean hit. If you have to heat a bottle to the point it switches to a gas even with bottle pressure the hit will add much less power due to losing the cooling effects of the nitrous. Just adding my .02 C
I have a friend with a 427R Roush that upgraded to the TVR blower. I'm not sure what he trapped last time we went to LVD but he walked away from me like I was in the wrong gear when we lined up on the highway. He didn't pull me quite as hard as his friend's pullied GT500, though, for a reference.