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Old 01-30-2012, 05:08 PM
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I think you missed point. Just slapping a blower on it like I did you are not going to run low 11's. It is going to need more supporting mods. I didn't. Convertor will easily put me in the 10's. With suspension and everythingv else helping me more and more. And I am an auto.

As far as full weight 5.0's it all depends on what trim level. My manual base was a hair over 3400. Now my loaded auto is almost 3800. Buddies base auto is about 3580.
Why?

What supporting mods would I need? D1sc @ 10#s... Sticky tires... Tune... That would be very close to 550Rwhp and weigh in lighter than your car by a tad. I see no reason you don't think it could run deep into the 11s.

A stock car with a 200 hit would put down roughly 500Rwhp and run deep deep into the 11s.

I don't see your reason for it not... Other than "because".
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What supporting mods are you saying it would take?
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Why?

What supporting mods would I need? D1sc @ 10#s... Sticky tires... Tune... That would be very close to 550Rwhp and weigh in lighter than your car by a tad. I see no reason you don't think it could run deep into the 11s.

A stock car with a 200 hit would put down roughly 500Rwhp and run deep deep into the 11s.

I don't see your reason for it not... Other than "because".
I tell you what - we can settle this

Lemons, buy me your old TA. Ohio, buy me the D1SC supercharger for it.

We'll test it out
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Originally Posted by lemons12
What supporting mods are you saying it would take?
Go buy an auto and try it. The guy this weekend with a 150 shot on his Fbody and headers, cam, sticky tires upgarded clutch upgrade and some suspension work(all right from him when he lined up next to me). He then told me good luck that he ran 11's and that I might have a hard time with a stock 5.0 beating him. Temp tags are great..LOL. Anhyway he ran 11.8-12.2 all night with -500 da. So even then isn't as simple as you say.


Not to mention as supporting mods in a manual you will end up needing some suspension work as well. Do to handling the harder launches. Betting will need headers as well to reach the 550whp mark with just the blower. 10lbs isn't going to add 250whp by its self. As said you will least need exhuast, inje4ctors, bap or fuel pump.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Go buy an auto and try it. The guy this weekend with a 150 shot on his Fbody and headers, cam, sticky tires upgarded clutch upgrade and some suspension work(all right from him when he lined up next to me). He then told me good luck that he ran 11's and that I might have a hard time with a stock 5.0 beating him. Temp tags are great..LOL. Anhyway he ran 11.8-12.2 all night with -500 da. So even then isn't as simple as you say.


Not to mention as supporting mods in a manual you will end up needing some suspension work as well. Do to handling the harder launches. Betting will need headers as well to reach the 550whp mark with just the blower. 10lbs isn't going to add 250whp by its self. As said you will least need exhuast, inje4ctors, bap or fuel pump.
Well obviously that guys car sucked lol. I've ran 10s in my h/c ls1 camaro with about 200hp less then you and trap as much as you. If i ran in -500 da i would be deep into the 10s. So don't base everything by that one shitty car you ran at the track
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I tell you what - we can settle this

Lemons, buy me your old TA. Ohio, buy me the D1SC supercharger for it.

We'll test it out
Give me just a tad bit longer and he won't have to buy the D1 for my car.... Unless he wants me to have an extra kit.

Shortblock is on the way.

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Go buy an auto and try it. The guy this weekend with a 150 shot on his Fbody and headers, cam, sticky tires upgarded clutch upgrade and some suspension work(all right from him when he lined up next to me). He then told me good luck that he ran 11's and that I might have a hard time with a stock 5.0 beating him. Temp tags are great..LOL. Anhyway he ran 11.8-12.2 all night with -500 da. So even then isn't as simple as you say.


Not to mention as supporting mods in a manual you will end up needing some suspension work as well. Do to handling the harder launches. Betting will need headers as well to reach the 550whp mark with just the blower. 10lbs isn't going to add 250whp by its self. As said you will least need exhuast, inje4ctors, bap or fuel pump.
You really are biased aren't you.

I ran faster than that with a budget setup full weight on motor in 2000+ DA... My buddies 98 full weight TA with a 228R/lid/full exhaust (otherwise BONE stock) ran 11.7-11.8s in 85 degree weather. Don't pull that crap on me.
Just because it isn't simple for him, doesn't mean it isn't for me.
Dudes setup sucks. Period.

What suspension work would you have to have for 1.6s besides a nice tire? I have personally seen M6s pull 1.6 times with nothing more than bolt ons and a slick.

8#s through a D1sc is a 190-205Rwhp pick up. 10#s would net you extremely close to 550Rwhp.
I have personally drove (almost bought) a bone stock ls1 (less exhaust) with a D1 at 7#s.. The car made 475Rwhp.

Stick to talking about modding the 5.0, don't talk to me what an Ls1 needs to reach XXXRwhp.

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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Well obviously that guys car sucked lol. I've ran 10s in my h/c ls1 camaro with about 200hp less then you and trap as much as you. If i ran in -500 da i would be deep into the 10s. So don't base everything by that one shitty car you ran at the track
WHat other mods do you have? suspension, weight, stall? And as same question if it was that easy why isn't every one running same set up as you?
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Give me just a tad bit longer and he won't have to buy the D1 for my car.... Unless he wants me to have an extra kit.

Shortblock is on the way.


You really are biased aren't you.

I ran faster than that with a budget setup full weight on motor in 2000+ DA... My buddies 98 full weight TA with a 228R/lid/full exhaust (otherwise BONE stock) ran 11.7-11.8s in 85 degree weather. Don't pull that crap on me.
Just because it isn't simple for him, doesn't mean it isn't for me.
Dudes setup sucks. Period.

What suspension work would you have to have for 1.6s besides a nice tire? I have personally seen M6s pull 1.6 times with nothing more than bolt ons and a slick.

8#s through a D1sc is a 190-205Rwhp pick up. 10#s would net you extremely close to 550Rwhp.
I have personally drove (almost bought) a bone stock ls1 (less exhaust) with a D1 at 7#s.. The car made 475Rwhp.

Stick to talking about modding the 5.0, don't talk to me what an Ls1 needs to reach XXXRwhp.

If it was as easy as you say why isn't every one doing it?
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
WHat other mods do you have? suspension, weight, stall? And as same question if it was that easy why isn't every one running same set up as you?
Its a 6 speed and I have the basic bolt on suspension parts and run on a stock size drag radial cutting 1.5x 60fts. I don't have a weight but its not stripped down and I drive it regularly its no race car. Actually has koni shocks and strano springs which is not made for drag racing. And most people can't drive or mod a car properly thats why they don't do it easily. If you look around this site most cars are missing at least one key thing to completing a combo... ex; tires, driver mod, etc...
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Originally Posted by lemons12
Why?

What supporting mods would I need? D1sc @ 10#s... Sticky tires... Tune... That would be very close to 550Rwhp and weigh in lighter than your car by a tad. I see no reason you don't think it could run deep into the 11s.

A stock car with a 200 hit would put down roughly 500Rwhp and run deep deep into the 11s.

I don't see your reason for it not... Other than "because".
You better run 10s with that!!!!

I am running low 11s with stock heads,full weight,stock wheels and all sway bars on Ohio. A blower with even 6 psi and bigger injectors SHOULD put me high 10s easy. And my car is no stronger than any other Ls that knows what they are doing. I got enough supercharged cars so I am doing weight reduction mods and heads and then done with it. Your car runs well but I think you are trying to get under Lemon's skin a bit don't you???
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Originally Posted by BayAreaSS
Its a 6 speed and I have the basic bolt on suspension parts and run on a stock size drag radial cutting 1.5x 60fts. I don't have a weight but its not stripped down and I drive it regularly its no race car. Actually has koni shocks and strano springs which is not made for drag racing. And most people can't drive or mod a car properly thats why they don't do it easily. If you look around this site most cars are missing at least one key thing to completing a combo... ex; tires, driver mod, etc...
This is what I mean supporting mods. He acts as it will automatically do it. Which is not true. Granted they are not drag shocks/springs but are still better then stock.

With little suspension mods I was able to cut 1.5 60fts in my manual. Advatage of being able to launch at 5k+. Which was also why I stated in an auto. Since I have an auto. If my car now was a manual I most likely could have run a little faster cause I could launch harder.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
You better run 10s with that!!!!

I am running low 11s with stock heads,full weight,stock wheels and all sway bars on Ohio. A blower with even 6 psi and bigger injectors SHOULD put me high 10s easy. And my car is no stronger than any other Ls that knows what they are doing. I got enough supercharged cars so I am doing weight reduction mods and heads and then done with it. Your car runs well but I think you are trying to get under Lemon's skin a bit don't you???
Me never!
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
This is what I mean supporting mods. He acts as it will automatically do it. Which is not true. Granted they are not drag shocks/springs but are still better then stock.

With little suspension mods I was able to cut 1.5 60fts in my manual. Advatage of being able to launch at 5k+. Which was also why I stated in an auto. Since I have an auto. If my car now was a manual I most likely could have run a little faster cause I could launch harder.
From what i've seen stock shocks/springs work half way decent on our cars for drag. I agree with lemons though. With a d1 and tires a ls1 car should have no problem running low 11s.
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Go buy an auto and try it. The guy this weekend with a 150 shot on his Fbody and headers, cam, sticky tires upgarded clutch upgrade and some suspension work(all right from him when he lined up next to me). He then told me good luck that he ran 11's and that I might have a hard time with a stock 5.0 beating him. Temp tags are great..LOL. Anhyway he ran 11.8-12.2 all night with -500 da. So even then isn't as simple as you say.


Not to mention as supporting mods in a manual you will end up needing some suspension work as well. Do to handling the harder launches. Betting will need headers as well to reach the 550whp mark with just the blower. 10lbs isn't going to add 250whp by its self. As said you will least need exhuast, inje4ctors, bap or fuel pump.
Wow thats slow, my car went 11.34 @ 121 with a lid, full exhaust, converter, and 100 dry shot. Car was full weight on 17s with 3.23 gears and no tune.
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Where is that 1Chevylover guy at?


His car would put a end to this thread and prove Ohio wrong
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I cut 1.5-1.6 on stock suspension in my GTO
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I would love to cut a 1.6 sixty.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
I would love to cut a 1.6 sixty.
buy a mustang and you can lmao
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But then my mph would suck.....I'll keep my mph
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Originally Posted by Heater
Where is that 1Chevylover guy at?


His car would put a end to this thread and prove Ohio wrong
LOL....Ya ok..little more then just a sc there. What even funny is every one tells him he should run deep 10's.


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