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Mike you are right, Machs were good for their time.
Mike you are right, Machs were good for their time.
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Yes, Mach 1s did run good for their time. You do realize though that since 2004, MACH 1 owners have had plenty of time to mod them..some quite extensively. MACH 1s with bolt-ons are in most cases fast enough to run with the newer performance cars of today..much like the LS1s can. Do not be foolish to think that MACH 1 owners left their cars stock. Most you will encounter on the street or track are modded and will run right next to you like it or not. You can take them lightly all you want..as a matter of fact, I usually love to put the beat down on the smug ones who are new to the game and think that their new car with the fancy badges and stripes means that they are fast. MACH 1s are not the fastest cars out their but they sure have the ability to deflate some egos. ![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
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There are TONS more modded modulars out there. I never said there aren't modular cars that aren't faster or with more power. Fact is MOST people who drive SRT8s are not modding them to race. Simple supply and demand, the demand is not high so the mod variety is limited and expensive due to the R&D required. So if one has more money than brains they can buy their way to the podium in any car.
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Yes, Mach 1s did run good for their time. You do realize though that since 2004, MACH 1 owners have had plenty of time to mod them..some quite extensively. MACH 1s with bolt-ons are in most cases fast enough to run with the newer performance cars of today..much like the LS1s can. Do not be foolish to think that MACH 1 owners left their cars stock. Most you will encounter on the street or track are modded and will run right next to you like it or not. You can take them lightly all you want..as a matter of fact, I usually love to put the beat down on the smug ones who are new to the game and think that their new car with the fancy badges and stripes means that they are fast. MACH 1s are not the fastest cars out their but they sure have the ability to deflate some egos. ![Winky](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_wink.gif)
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You realize that stock to stock a Mach 1 was faster than a turbo Buick correct?
My Mustang is almost 700 at the wheels. I have never had a Buick turbo anything touch me on the street since 1999. Does that mean they are slow? Of course not. There are plenty that would demolish me.
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You realize that stock to stock a Mach 1 was faster than a turbo Buick correct?
My Mustang is almost 700 at the wheels. I have never had a Buick turbo anything touch me on the street since 1999. Does that mean they are slow? Of course not. There are plenty that would demolish me.
My Mustang is almost 700 at the wheels. I have never had a Buick turbo anything touch me on the street since 1999. Does that mean they are slow? Of course not. There are plenty that would demolish me.
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Stock for stock.. yes the Mach 1 was faster, but the Buick would keep up pretty damn well for being.. 20? years older. The are only a few tenths between each other (depending on auto/ manual). I don't think that's too bad.. Now if we put a chip in the Buick burned for race gas... The Mach would have no chance.. I don't think you could gain much from just a tune with race gas on a Mach. I am not trying to be down on the Mach, and I know there is always something faster. My question was whether or not they could be modded (the ones I ran). Just kind of a hypothetical question to myself.. If that makes sense?
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The only Buick GN I've ever run was a modded one and I passed him sideways. The look on his face when a 95 GT went by him was amazing. He gave me a thumbs up afterwards and I had a **** eating grin on my face and both me and my passenger told him how badass his car was. I'd never own one because of the interior but the GN is just such an icon.
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I see your point. A Mach however is not equipped with a power adder so adding race gas is worthless and would slow the car down even with a tune with extreme timing. The Buick comes out on top in terms of straight line speed with light mods due to having forced induction. A Mach thanks to being a newer design can stop,handle ect much better.
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The only Buick GN I've ever run was a modded one and I passed him sideways. The look on his face when a 95 GT went by him was amazing. He gave me a thumbs up afterwards and I had a **** eating grin on my face and both me and my passenger told him how badass his car was. I'd never own one because of the interior but the GN is just such an icon.
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In response to the Cobra comments, I ran an 01 Cobra a couple of months ago (link below). The owner of the Cobra is a good friend of mine and his car runs pretty hard with minimal mods. His car always impresses me and he has a good amount of street wins against some worthy opponents.
In the vid, I have a few more mods than him however, recently he just put in 4.10 gears also so we will have to run again soon.
For the first three races, I started in 3rd gear and him in 2nd to compensate for my gear advantage. On the last three races, we both started in 2nd.
The one race, we did take the mph a little to far (140+..pretty dumb) ...guess we just got into it a little to much..(normally I would not push it like that)
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74mm single turbo. We went from a redlight (I cut a U-turn to catch him) and I didn't catch traction until 3rd and I had to pedal it through 3rd.
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Finally got a chance to read through all these pages... sorry a little late with this though...
In response to the Cobra comments, I ran an 01 Cobra a couple of months ago (link below). The owner of the Cobra is a good friend of mine and his car runs pretty hard with minimal mods. His car always impresses me and he has a good amount of street wins against some worthy opponents.
In the vid, I have a few more mods than him however, recently he just put in 4.10 gears also so we will have to run again soon.
For the first three races, I started in 3rd gear and him in 2nd to compensate for my gear advantage. On the last three races, we both started in 2nd.
The one race, we did take the mph a little to far (140+..pretty dumb) ...guess we just got into it a little to much..(normally I would not push it like that)
In response to the Cobra comments, I ran an 01 Cobra a couple of months ago (link below). The owner of the Cobra is a good friend of mine and his car runs pretty hard with minimal mods. His car always impresses me and he has a good amount of street wins against some worthy opponents.
In the vid, I have a few more mods than him however, recently he just put in 4.10 gears also so we will have to run again soon.
For the first three races, I started in 3rd gear and him in 2nd to compensate for my gear advantage. On the last three races, we both started in 2nd.
The one race, we did take the mph a little to far (140+..pretty dumb) ...guess we just got into it a little to much..(normally I would not push it like that)
Where in NC are you?
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