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Old 06-01-2012, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Yeah but any of these RWD cars are capable of being "quick" (having a good E/T) It just needs the trap to back it up.

With some work (a driver mod/tires) you can really see what each car is capable of from the factory.

You know how many 11 sec bolt on ls1 f-body's there would be if people truly cared more about E/Ts on here? lol. I think i would rather throw a Heads/Cam combo before justify buying a beefy enough rear to go to the track.

I don't think ive seen a 11 sec mach 1 with bolt ons yet. Has anyone done it? If so that's really impressive.



Agreed - I'd personally rather have a more fun car on the street. Generally don't get enough chance to gotoIt helps my case that the 10-bolt generally lives a longer life behind the 4l60e

I had an LT1 back in the day - it had to be an ET queen because of lack of power. Too bad I only got it to the strip twice in 3 years

Careful, Stoppy and his pals might claim this 11 sec mach 1 without sufficient proof

I'm not going to lose sleep over it. And no worries, I saw your point the whole time. I'm more of an ET person myself but MPH definitely means the "faster" car vs ET being "quicker"
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Agreed - I'd personally rather have a more fun car on the street. Generally don't get enough chance to gotoIt helps my case that the 10-bolt generally lives a longer life behind the 4l60e

I had an LT1 back in the day - it had to be an ET queen because of lack of power. Too bad I only got it to the strip twice in 3 years

Careful, Stoppy and his pals might claim this 11 sec mach 1 without sufficient proof

I'm not going to lose sleep over it. And no worries, I saw your point the whole time. I'm more of an ET person myself but MPH definitely means the "faster" car vs ET being "quicker"
Its cool man.

Anything is possible though.

Theres a guy down here running 11.3 at 117 in a hatch on motor (always use hondas as examples cause i dont know anyone with an f-body here).

So its very believable that a 112-115 mph bolt on ls1 is capable (or any rwd for the matter) of running 11s. Just wish these things had a decent rear, it would be very common.

Now stoppy for example just has to pick up 4-5 mph in the 1/4, and he will more than likely be capable of breaking into the 11s.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Its cool man.

Anything is possible though.

Theres a guy down here running 11.3 at 117 in a hatch on motor (always use hondas as examples cause i dont know anyone with an f-body here).

So its very believable that a 112-115 mph bolt on ls1 is capable (or any rwd for the matter) of running 11s. Just wish these things had a decent rear, it would be very common.

Now stoppy for example just has to pick up 4-5 mph in the 1/4, and he will more than likely be capable of breaking into the 11s.
What is done to your Formy? 10-bolts are junk. Modding starts getting "expensive" when you factor in built transmission (4l60e) and upgraded rear

All Hondas over there? It is the same in Des Moines. HUGE Honda crowd (most of which I'm not a fan of - so that is where my bias comes from) Lots of Mustangs and a slightly growing F-body, GTO, C5, G8, TBSS, etc. crowd

I'm looking into getting into another TA (01-02 black ws6) when I graduate but I just have a hard time justifying paying >$10k for an f-body (aren't worth it to me - maybe the time of absence will grow on me)
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Its cool man.

Anything is possible though.

Theres a guy down here running 11.3 at 117 in a hatch on motor (always use hondas as examples cause i dont know anyone with an f-body here).

So its very believable that a 112-115 mph bolt on ls1 is capable (or any rwd for the matter) of running 11s. Just wish these things had a decent rear, it would be very common.

Now stoppy for example just has to pick up 4-5 mph in the 1/4, and he will more than likely be capable of breaking into the 11s.

Took a real rear end and lots of weight reduction to get there, but with a stick is impressive. From what I recall it had no hvac, a lot of interior gone, S60 4.56 rear, and bolt-ons
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Originally Posted by why87
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Nc1MM6WBc

Took a real rear end and lots of weight reduction to get there, but with a stick is impressive. From what I recall it had no hvac, a lot of interior gone, S60 4.56 rear, and bolt-ons
Thats pretty deep in the 11s though. How much weight are we talking? HIO claims to weight 3000 without driver and he still has a/c p/s and cruise and full interior. Local guy here trapped 115 with full bolt ons but stock ls6 manifold full weight too, and on pump gas 93.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Stopsign generally races at the strip and they were arguing about ET's. Guess what - the car at the strip wins on ETs
I never brought up the track I said on the street. He brought up the track thinking he will have some kind of advantage but he wont. One the Street im faster theres no question and I run faster at a slower track in anywhere from +1800-3000 DA he ran his time in +350 Da thats almost perfect. His car traps 108 modded. 6.1 SRT8's trap 108-110 bone stock. Mine traps 112-113. There are guys with my exact mods. Intake, Catback, Canned Tune and DR's running 12.3's @112-114. Not directing this to you but show me 1 mach 1 with catback, tune, dr's running 12.3 @ that much mph. And not corrected times lol

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There is a guy here full weight, 3.73s, tune, longtubes and ported TB that went 12.2 @ 114.

It's an auto on street tire.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying, Nite
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
There is a guy here full weight, 3.73s, tune, longtubes and ported TB that went 12.2 @ 114.

It's an auto on street tire.
Yeah thats really good this guy traped 115 with port tb, lid, longtubes, UD pulley, dumps, and tuned.


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Originally Posted by why87
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Nc1MM6WBc

Took a real rear end and lots of weight reduction to get there, but with a stick is impressive. From what I recall it had no hvac, a lot of interior gone, S60 4.56 rear, and bolt-ons
Just read in the comments on youtube and this is what the owner says

"I haven't dyno'd the car since I put the headers on, but it dyno'd 317 then. I'd guess it's around 350 rwhp now @ 3270 race weight."

Checked his vids and he it seems legit. When you guys say race weight does that mean with driver or without?
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Just read in the comments on youtube and this is what the owner says

"I haven't dyno'd the car since I put the headers on, but it dyno'd 317 then. I'd guess it's around 350 rwhp now @ 3270 race weight."

Checked his vids and he it seems legit. When you guys say race weight does that mean with driver or without?
With.
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Originally Posted by Jay z28
With.
Well hio claims 3080 with **** in his car and i forgot how much gas, with a 200lb driver thats close to what he weighs but hio has a/c and all that ****.
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11s with full weight(jack and spare in the car),ten bolt(girdle,welded tubes),stock trans with cooler,3800 converter,Transgo,all sway bars on and stock wheels and bolt ons. Easy to do with an auto and a hardtop cloth car
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris


11s with full weight(jack and spare in the car),ten bolt(girdle,welded tubes),stock trans with cooler,3800 converter,Transgo,all sway bars on and stock wheels and bolt ons. Easy to do with an auto and a hardtop cloth car
Thats sick, whats the weight difference between a t-top to hardtop car? I remember reading it wasn't much. Are the weight on the titles accurate? My car according to the title weighs 3300 pounds.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris


11s with full weight(jack and spare in the car),ten bolt(girdle,welded tubes),stock trans with cooler,3800 converter,Transgo,all sway bars on and stock wheels and bolt ons. Easy to do with an auto and a hardtop cloth car
That's quick! I had a buddy that had identical mods to me except A4. I was off-road y, stock manifolds, cut out, lid, and 4.10s at the time. DA was just under 1000ft. I was on the stock Goodyear RS-As and the car has always trapped well. I went the time in sig. I know the trap was correct because I was on the stock limiter at the line in 4th. My buddy had a 3200 stall I believe and 3.73s with all the same engine mods I had. He went 12.0 at 111 the same day. He was on DRs, but it was a joke racing him. I would slowly pull from a roll, but that auto was deadly consistent at the track and he was full weight. I shattered my ring gear twice with the 4.10s on the RS-As so there was no way a DR was going on the car. Of course the track I went to at the time, Carlsbad, had the most horrendous track prep imaginable considering you came in on a dirt road. Damn A4s!
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Originally Posted by NOLAG05
ok... lets put the racial shyt up and get back to you going to SC to race stopsign...
He still hasn't replied to this....
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Originally Posted by MTN_Z
That's quick! I had a buddy that had identical mods to me except A4. I was off-road y, stock manifolds, cut out, lid, and 4.10s at the time. DA was just under 1000ft. I was on the stock Goodyear RS-As and the car has always trapped well. I went the time in sig. I know the trap was correct because I was on the stock limiter at the line in 4th. My buddy had a 3200 stall I believe and 3.73s with all the same engine mods I had. He went 12.0 at 111 the same day. He was on DRs, but it was a joke racing him. I would slowly pull from a roll, but that auto was deadly consistent at the track and he was full weight. I shattered my ring gear twice with the 4.10s on the RS-As so there was no way a DR was going on the car. Of course the track I went to at the time, Carlsbad, had the most horrendous track prep imaginable considering you came in on a dirt road. Damn A4s!
I agree. Bet on the highway though at 50MPH though you killed him.

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Thats sick, whats the weight difference between a t-top to hardtop car? I remember reading it wasn't much. Are the weight on the titles accurate? My car according to the title weighs 3300 pounds.
I am not sure. Car is a B4C too so that is a tad lighter(no speakers in the trunk area etc)
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Originally Posted by NOLAG05
but lets make this race happen between you and stopsign... hell he is only 4 or 5 hours from me here and maryland. Haven't meet him in person but like anybody he loves his car and knows what he can do just like you and the SRT guys... so lets set something up playa... i'm going to SC next weekend to get fireworks... PM stopsign and see what you can setup and put this beef to rest... can i get a AMEN...lol
Annnnnd he managed to look over this too.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
I agree. Bet on the highway though at 50MPH though you killed him.



I am not sure. Car is a B4C too so that is a tad lighter(no speakers in the trunk area etc)
Yeah I would usually get away pretty good when he hit third. Good races though. It wasn't a crazy converter or anything, but it hit hard even from a 50.
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Just read in the comments on youtube and this is what the owner says

"I haven't dyno'd the car since I put the headers on, but it dyno'd 317 then. I'd guess it's around 350 rwhp now @ 3270 race weight."

Checked his vids and he it seems legit. When you guys say race weight does that mean with driver or without?
I'd have to dig out the Hot Rod issue. That's actually where I saw this first. All I remember is no hvac, and a decent amount of interior gone.


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