Supercharged Z06 vs E85 GTR
10-21-2012, 04:49 PM
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[QUOTE=Blown383LS1;16829876]I never took it to the track and sold it to a member on this site bigd98. I gave him the dyno sheets, don't know if he still has them or not. It was originally built by RMCR. 383 stroker, ported stock heads, blower cam that I could never get the specs on and LS1 intake. It made 15#. The car was a beast. I still regret selling it sometimes.
So you mad about 13hp per lb of boost? Doesn't sound very efficient to me... That's why I prefer turbo's....
So you mad about 13hp per lb of boost? Doesn't sound very efficient to me... That's why I prefer turbo's....
10-21-2012, 04:49 PM
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Oh I know, I'm just giving him ****. lol
10-21-2012, 04:50 PM
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All the vortechs, novis, and prochargers are awesome blowers. In fact there my preferance over a roots blower. However most times they get bad reps because people dont set the car up right to run with that style blower
10-21-2012, 04:52 PM
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Thank you. The guy I sold it to popped a head gasket on it right after he got it. It had two fuel pumps on it with one of them on a switch under the dash. I was told by the original owner that for just cruising around leave it off. If you were going to run it hard, that the other pump needed to be turned on. I told this to the guy I sold to the same thing and he forgot to turn it on for a race. Car ran lean. I always left it turned on.
10-21-2012, 04:55 PM
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[QUOTE=sweet99ss;16829920] Not mad about anything. 
Just pointing out that Vortechs came make great power is all. I don't know how we got to turbos but if that is where we are now, I agree that they make more power. That's why I am going turbo with my new build.
I never took it to the track and sold it to a member on this site bigd98. I gave him the dyno sheets, don't know if he still has them or not. It was originally built by RMCR. 383 stroker, ported stock heads, blower cam that I could never get the specs on and LS1 intake. It made 15#. The car was a beast. I still regret selling it sometimes.
So you mad about 13hp per lb of boost? Doesn't sound very efficient to me... That's why I prefer turbo's....
So you mad about 13hp per lb of boost? Doesn't sound very efficient to me... That's why I prefer turbo's....
Just pointing out that Vortechs came make great power is all. I don't know how we got to turbos but if that is where we are now, I agree that they make more power. That's why I am going turbo with my new build.
10-21-2012, 05:24 PM
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i prefer roots/TS for drag racing and fun, but if you want power for highway runs, a centri beats the roots/ts, all else equal. turbo's are too tempermental for me.
10-21-2012, 05:28 PM
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If they were setup right.. they would me monsters from a dig and all other speeds.
10-21-2012, 05:55 PM
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[QUOTE=sweet99ss;16830077] No one is comparing turbo efficiency to blowers but you. I am sorry that 660 hp through an auto with stock heads and intake are terrible numbers. Would it have made more with a turbo at the same boost? Hell yes it would have. Still made enough to be kinda fast though, I will try harder next time. 
10-21-2012, 06:18 PM
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No one is comparing turbo efficiency to blowers but you. I am sorry that 660 hp through an auto with stock heads and intake are terrible numbers. Would it have made more with a turbo at the same boost? Hell yes it would have. Still made enough to be kinda fast though, I will try harder next time. My very first post said I wasn't a fan of vortech blowers... You posted your dyno numbers wich suck for the amount of boost you were pushing to apparently change my mind that vortech blowers are "good". This is why I came back and said this is why I prefer turbo's to vortech blowers, ect. 660 is a good number, but with 15lbs of boost with a 383 motor, ported heads, and a blower cam is sorry. Again why I do not like vortech kits. I really don't know why you keep arguing lol....
No one is comparing turbo efficiency to blowers but you. I am sorry that 660 hp through an auto with stock heads and intake are terrible numbers. Would it have made more with a turbo at the same boost? Hell yes it would have. Still made enough to be kinda fast though, I will try harder next time.
10-21-2012, 06:30 PM
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No one is comparing turbo efficiency to blowers but you. I am sorry that 660 hp through an auto with stock heads and intake are terrible numbers. Would it have made more with a turbo at the same boost? Hell yes it would have. Still made enough to be kinda fast though, I will try harder next time.
10-21-2012, 07:02 PM
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Thanks for the compliment adam. The car was cam only, it still had the 806 perimeter bolt heads on it 
. Sorry sweet99, the car was pitiful, was not efficient, and would probably struggle to run a 13 second quarter mile. If it was only good for 13hp per pound of boost then do you think that a low compression 383 with a blower cam through a stalled auto would put down 465rwhp?
. Sorry sweet99, the car was pitiful, was not efficient, and would probably struggle to run a 13 second quarter mile. If it was only good for 13hp per pound of boost then do you think that a low compression 383 with a blower cam through a stalled auto would put down 465rwhp?
10-21-2012, 07:14 PM
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I was on the lookout for a TA hatch for it. I didn't care for the Formy wing myself. It had coilovers all the way around, full BMR suspension, and Baer Eradispeed rotors. The only problem I had with it was hooking up. Going sideways @ 70 is not fun but it was great for scaring passengers, lol. It had 315 BFG drag radials on it and they were worthless.
10-21-2012, 07:16 PM
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Thanks for the compliment adam. The car was cam only, it still had the 806 perimeter bolt heads on it . Sorry sweet99, the car was pitiful, was not efficient, and would probably struggle to run a 13 second quarter mile. If it was only good for 13hp per pound of boost then do you think that a low compression 383 with a blower cam through a stalled auto would put down 465rwhp?
. Sorry sweet99, the car was pitiful, was not efficient, and would probably struggle to run a 13 second quarter mile. If it was only good for 13hp per pound of boost then do you think that a low compression 383 with a blower cam through a stalled auto would put down 465rwhp?Btw not downing the car. Honestly I'm only shooting for 500hp with my turbo build, but this is on a pretty much stock motor with 6psi. I just haven't seen many vortech setups perform.
10-21-2012, 07:25 PM
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It made 660 at 5900rpm btw. Spun the tires on the dyno and the run was aborted. The original owner told me that it made 693rwhp and sent me some dyno sheets but I didn't believe him. When it hit 660 at 5900, I believed him. I had the tuner pull some timing and when I left the shop it made 589rwhp. It was actually faster on the street because it hooked up better. I was planning to buy a different set of tires for it, do some tuning on the suspension for better weight transfer, and then set it on kill but I got an offer I couldn't refuse and sold it for 3k more than I bought it for.
10-22-2012, 01:42 AM
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10-22-2012, 09:40 AM
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ill give you a hint. oh, its warm out? wgdc probably needs to be tweaked.. ah, higher altitude now, hope the load compensation tables aren't set up wrong... and the list goes on..
all the little things add up to watching everything all the time. are they fun and can be setup to deal with all situations? sure.. but it wont be as fast as it could be, and thats why we have a turbo anyway, so you better log everything at all times....
are we talking about battle of the factory OEMs or performance modding cars? do you think any of us care what OEM does in regards to how we boost something aftermarket? show me some big hp roots blown OEM cars..and ill show a centri car killing it on a roll...
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