Supercharged Z06 vs E85 GTR
10-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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Vortech makes a lot of different head units. Some have straight cut gears which are loud and some have helical cut gears are pretty quiet. Did you watch the dyno run with sound? That T trim sounded like a jet taking off, lol. I loved the sound of it. Even at idle, there was no hiding it. I had a Vortech SQ on a Mustang and without popping the hood, you wouldn't know it was there.
10-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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If the z06 had a decent setup and drive then it would've gone differently.
Look, it's fairly simple and I don't understand why people down play roots so much. I have the ability to make full torque at roughly 2,500rpm and I have managed a formula to PLANT it to the ground. I have a cam that opens at about 4k, giving me a centri-like push. The car is a total beast. The ability to plant power so low and sustain it up until 7k rpm makes it beastly.
A properly setup roots will give a centri a run for the money. I plant 6xx rwtq at 2.5k rpm and at around 4-5k rpm I'm at full hp. Most roots will faceplant after 5.5k but with a good setup you can hold that power band to your shift point. A centri needs to build up that torque like a turbo. Like I said a properly setup one is a beast also, but you can't compare low grunt roots to low grunt centri.
Look, it's fairly simple and I don't understand why people down play roots so much. I have the ability to make full torque at roughly 2,500rpm and I have managed a formula to PLANT it to the ground. I have a cam that opens at about 4k, giving me a centri-like push. The car is a total beast. The ability to plant power so low and sustain it up until 7k rpm makes it beastly.
A properly setup roots will give a centri a run for the money. I plant 6xx rwtq at 2.5k rpm and at around 4-5k rpm I'm at full hp. Most roots will faceplant after 5.5k but with a good setup you can hold that power band to your shift point. A centri needs to build up that torque like a turbo. Like I said a properly setup one is a beast also, but you can't compare low grunt roots to low grunt centri.
show us a 60-130 vbox log You tried making it seem like turbo's are super complicated and you need to tune them when it gets hot or you go to a higher elevated area wich is not the case. When your are gets more dense any engine is going to have to change to compinsate for it not just turbo'd car's... I am biased with turbo's and clearly you like centri setups so the arguments can go on and on... From what I've seen it's harder to make big power with procharger/vortech setups and all the BIG reliable hp guys around here run turbo's... One guy here with a tc76mm turbo 6.0 TRUCK with 200,000 miles drives his truck 150 miles to the track and runs low 11's@125 on 10lbs of boost. BTW the elvation is a good 1000ft difference and it still runs great!
10-22-2012, 04:55 PM
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What do the COPO camaros use?
10-22-2012, 04:56 PM
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it is fairly simple, ricer math vs rubber on road.. one is popular and the other is not for real outcomes show us a 60-130 vbox log
I said too tempermental. somethin atmospheric changes and you have to fool around with it. Of course turbos make more power, ill never argue that. but we're talking about street cars. some use centri's, some use turbo's.. i think we can agree that none us TS/roots
show us a 60-130 vbox log I said too tempermental. somethin atmospheric changes and you have to fool around with it. Of course turbos make more power, ill never argue that. but we're talking about street cars. some use centri's, some use turbo's.. i think we can agree that none us TS/roots
Anyway, anyone with half a brain will throw a shot on top of a roots and then no one will ever beat you.
10-22-2012, 04:58 PM
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10-22-2012, 05:01 PM
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oh, but now a roots needs NOS!!!! to run with the centri's? what happened to proper setup TS running with them?
10-22-2012, 05:06 PM
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But you guys love to compare apples with oranges. You like comparing 24psi+ centri race car blowers to little 2.3l 14psi blowers. I still support my claim that a roots is the best street setup blower car you can have.
10-22-2012, 05:46 PM
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when it comes to performance
Turbo>centri>roots
Tq means **** in the low geared reving world. That always seems to be everyones counter argument. "You dont make any tq". Who cares if i dont make tq. My car spends 100 percent of its time in its top end HP curve. Why would i care about how much tq my car makes.
Roots blowers are for people with heavy cars with no gear. They also rob the most power
Turbo>centri>roots
Tq means **** in the low geared reving world. That always seems to be everyones counter argument. "You dont make any tq". Who cares if i dont make tq. My car spends 100 percent of its time in its top end HP curve. Why would i care about how much tq my car makes.
Roots blowers are for people with heavy cars with no gear. They also rob the most power
10-23-2012, 07:42 AM
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when it comes to performance
Turbo>centri>roots
Tq means **** in the low geared reving world. That always seems to be everyones counter argument. "You dont make any tq". Who cares if i dont make tq. My car spends 100 percent of its time in its top end HP curve. Why would i care about how much tq my car makes.
Roots blowers are for people with heavy cars with no gear. They also rob the most power
Turbo>centri>roots
Tq means **** in the low geared reving world. That always seems to be everyones counter argument. "You dont make any tq". Who cares if i dont make tq. My car spends 100 percent of its time in its top end HP curve. Why would i care about how much tq my car makes.
Roots blowers are for people with heavy cars with no gear. They also rob the most power
10-23-2012, 10:16 AM
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10-23-2012, 10:49 AM
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