99peweterls1

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^^ I thought about saying something but I didnt want to push the f-body nut swinging envelope. Lol

Nice car btw, I almost traded in my car for a sonic blue cobra. Guy wired money for the car and I was next in line (bastard) lol. I love driving my buddies 04 vert.

evangto87

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with those wheels and an exhaust, his car should be down an easy 125lbs. And the trans ams were slightly heavier then the camaros.

Edit: didnt mean to qoute you... hit the wrong button

corysmach1

Tired trans am? Its an extremely mild setup. It makes 415. It is what it is we are saying for the power it makes it runs fine......no matter what video we post you guys act like alllllll heads cam fbodys should smash the world. All cars run different and never will 2 of the same cars run the same. This is street racing and roll racing at that.....anything is possible.

Heater

LoL, so for arguments sake, both of these cars are going to have to be weighed on the same scale on the same day.


Thanks for the compliment, I always wanted one after seeing what they could do on a dyno.

corysmach1

The TA will be lighter....most people dont understand these 5.0s are geared to death!

99peweterls1

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It's ok, I see what your saying, but I'm sure the f-body doesnt have factory exhaust on it. That's weight on these cars to. Plus whatever else he may have in suspension or clutch etc.

99peweterls1

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For the power it makes, to the cars he has raced, all the way to the disaster he calls a track pass that car WILL NOT hang with other h/c car. Granted im giving it slack being y'all have some elevation up there. If a h/c car is not doing at least 120mph trap speeds without being stripped apart it's time to go back to the drawing board. I wouldnt admit to having heads on that car.

00silverGTP

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one question....is there something wrong with the vet too? It barely pulled on this 5.0 and it makes 447 and is a ton lighter?

99peweterls1

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A heads and cam 6liter vette stays within 1 car of a bolt-on 5.0 and you have the audacity to ask me if something's wrong with it to!? There's no reason a h/c ls2 c6 shouldn't be closer to the 128-130mph range. Doesn't he have some unmilled rectangular port budget heads on the car? Come on man, can you say combination?


Edit: Do not mistaken this for me downing your setups. It's budget minded but you speak so highly of it like its just as good or almost as good as anything else. IMO the best thing miller could have done was getting those 243's ported If the build had to have a budget. I don't have faith in 2.165/1.59 valves on 3.9-4.0 bore size motors. It's like trying to pass air around and over the bottom of a safety cone, but hey to each his own.

Thunderkyss

I'd like to see that video, I'd probably have some comments as well. Most of my comments come from disbelief that the 5 liter is making that much power. Coming from the factory with 412hp, I figured the motor is maxed out & there wouldn't be much room for gains.

That's 412 net hp 1.36 hp/cubic inch naturally aspirated. From what I've "known" in the past, that's pretty much maxing out the motors potential. Obviously that doesn't hold true any more. We're talking about 415 at the wheels.

By comparison, your car is making 417 rwhp from 347 ci...... 1.2 hp/ci, doesn't that sound a little odd to you? Not that there is anything wrong with your car, your car is what I would consider "normal" 1.2 rwhp/ci normally aspirated.

If you could make the same 1.36 rwhp/ci that the 5 liter is, that would be 471 rwhp, if you were getting that kind of power, wouldn't that surprise you?

If they are reving their motors over 8,000 rpm it would be easier to believe (not that I don't believe them) but to make that kind of power under 8K..... your car redlines at 6500, if you could raise that to 7800 do you think you'd make 475 rwhp?

So I guess that's the question that I have, can 1300 rpm pick up 68 hp? It doesn't sound that far fetched when you say it that way.

BLWNV10

If a H/C/I LS2 C6 can only pull a car on a bolt-on 5.0 then the vette owner needs to go back to the drawing board. That's a slow C6.

lilmiller74

Go away...your posts make me want to play in traffic....

I had the head off of my car and was going to have them milled but there was no ptv clearance. I raced the the 5.0 from a 40 roll in second gear because I have a messed up transmission. A 40 roll in second is terrible for me (2800-3000) rpm which is no where close to where my power is at. I raced him like that because it was just for fun.

00silverGTP

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don't make excuses casey. the stang missed 4th hence why he dropped back.

And this vet flies, just watch his vids. he doesn't lose often.

My WHOLE point is, you guys are bashing cars instead of giving credit where its do. I say thats one fast 5.0, not that is one slow TA.

2SSARME

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lilmiller74

Im not making excuses his car is def fast, but I think if I could do a 30 or 40 in first I would pull him.

00silverGTP

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Maybe a car. But 30 is first for him too and has much better gearing......

Thunderkyss

For the record, I'm not bashing anyone. It's just easier to believe the TA wasn't at it's best than it is to believe a 5 litre makes that much power.

The gearing is easy enough to understand.

But hey, I'm a believer, the 302 is making more hp per cubic inch than the LSx

99peweterls1

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Who says the 5.0 doesn't run good? What it comes down to is his car is efficient and yall cars aren't = tired . Truth hurts

AWDTBSS

To be honest tho lilmillers setup really isnt much of a h/c setup. Its more a small cam only setup honestly. Its real bare bones budget build. Theres 2 people on here in this section with C6 LS2s that made more cam only.

It runs good for a small cam only setup, but not for a H/C setup

lilmiller74

Its a tiny cam, stock ls3 intake manifold un-milled ls3 heads and until last week it had the stock intake.