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Old 04-19-2013, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
My point? My point is this...

faceplated T56....stock transmission
5" racing clutch....stock clutch
crate motor......stock motor
drag radials.....slicks
fixed back racing seats...stock leather
aero mods to make faster...stock
"creative" weight reduction...stock other than removed sway bar
higher lift RRs.....stock
aftermarket intake.....stock
headers.....stock
bigger throttle body....stock


But hey! My car is more of a race car.
yep...you bolt slicks on it that's what happens.....race car.

don't forget

fast .........slow

Looks to me like your point was none of my mods keep me from driving anywhere at any time. But those slicks sure as hell would

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Old 04-19-2013, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by zz4camaro1980
Hio, would you be willing to list ALL the mods done to your car? Including all of your backyard mechanic stuff (home ported, TB, intake, manifold, etc), all the "creating" weight reduction, basically anything that is not as it came from the factory. I really am curious how your car runs that fast.
Check below zz4....I told ya one of these guys would list my mods
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My point? My point is this...

faceplated T56....stock transmission
5" racing clutch....stock clutch
crate motor......stock motor
drag radials.....slicks
fixed back racing seats...stock leather
aero mods to make faster...stock
"creative" weight reduction...stock other than removed sway bar
higher lift RRs.....stock
aftermarket intake.....stock
headers.....stock
bigger throttle body....stock


But hey! My car is more of a race car.
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:15 PM
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A face plated trans is non-synchronized, no?
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Old 04-19-2013, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GtoSpd
A face plated trans is non-synchronized, no?
correct
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I was intending to run an oval charge pipe for that section.
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Old 04-19-2013, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GtoSpd
A face plated trans is non-synchronized, no?
Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
correct
Actually 1-4 is not synchronized 5-6 is synchronized.


Something else I find funny is I said something a while back about reinforcing the rear pick up points on a mustang. I was a idiot then, they didn't need it......now all of a sudden you guys are doin it. Ain't that some ****....
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Actually 1-4 is not synchronized 5-6 is synchronized.


Something else I find funny is I said something a while back about reinforcing the rear pick up points on a mustang. I was a idiot then, they didn't need it......now all of a sudden you guys are doin it. Ain't that some ****....
Post up where you said that and I didn't agree with you. I'd be interested in seeing that.
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I'm not gonna look for it. Maybe someone else will know where it is.
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Oh ok...
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lmao!
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What's the weight of that clutch?
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All u have to do is search your name and a key word and it will come up.

And i wana hear more about faceplating.
Isnt that where u always hav to drive it like u stole it even in city driving?
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Originally Posted by hugger1975
All u have to do is search your name and a key word and it will come up.

And i wana hear more about faceplating.
Isnt that where u always hav to drive it like u stole it even in city driving?
Faceplating basically makes the window of time to shift bigger. Meaning in a syncro'd tranny the bronze syncro gear slows down the gear so that the clutster gear can me engaged to the gear on the main shaft. With a faceplated tranny the small tooth'd syncro gear is removed a large ring with engagement lungs is welded to the gear. Giving you a huge gap vs very small gaps in a syncro tranny.

Picture a ring with small teeth and the gaps between the teeth is your window to shift...say this big..... "..........". A faceplated tranny has larger lugs or tabs and the gap between them is this big.... "....................". But you must still use your clutch to engage the tranny.

On the street you will hear a faceplated tranny clunk sometimes if the rpm isn't match appropiately. Much like a detroit locker clunks. But if you get good at it you can rev match and shift somewhat smoothly. But faceplating overall is harder on the gears.

You don't see too many faceplated trannys on street cars. They are mainly on racecars.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
It's not that I don't like it. I'm just going to something that I can have more options for the handle.
Let me give you another option. Take it to a machine shop have them cut it down to the size you want and rethread it to a different thread. Bin planing on doing it to mine just havn't got around to it. Got a buddy that had his done.
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Faceplating basically makes the window of time to shift bigger. Meaning in a syncro'd tranny the bronze syncro gear slows down the gear so that the clutster gear can me engaged to the gear on the main shaft. With a faceplated tranny the small tooth'd syncro gear is removed a large ring with engagement lungs is welded to the gear. Giving you a huge gap vs very small gaps in a syncro tranny.

Picture a ring with small teeth and the gaps between the teeth is your window to shift...say this big..... "..........". A faceplated tranny has larger lugs or tabs and the gap between them is this big.... "....................". But you must still use your clutch to engage the tranny.

On the street you will hear a faceplated tranny clunk sometimes if the rpm isn't match appropiately. Much like a detroit locker clunks. But if you get good at it you can rev match and shift somewhat smoothly. But faceplating overall is harder on the gears.

You don't see too many faceplated trannys on street cars. They are mainly on racecars.
Nice write up...Always wondered what that really was...makes sense now!
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Old 04-20-2013, 11:23 AM
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Waits for Hiho to come screaming in saying "My faceplated trans shifts better than a regular trans on the street. My clutch is smoother than a new Toyota Carolla's. And my gf can drive my car."

Just more from the king.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
lmao!
What are you laughing at?
Originally Posted by dsmfan95
What's the weight of that clutch?
You talkin to me??
Originally Posted by hugger1975
All u have to do is search your name and a key word and it will come up.

And i wana hear more about faceplating.
Isnt that where u always hav to drive it like u stole it even in city driving?
You have to drive it like you stole. Drive it like normal. If you can drive a stick then it should not be a problem. The problem is most can't drive a stick. Most think they can. It takes more than being able to take off and go up threw the gears to drive a stick.
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Faceplating basically makes the window of time to shift bigger. Meaning in a syncro'd tranny the bronze syncro gear slows down the gear so that the clutster gear can me engaged to the gear on the main shaft. With a faceplated tranny the small tooth'd syncro gear is removed a large ring with engagement lungs is welded to the gear. Giving you a huge gap vs very small gaps in a syncro tranny.

Picture a ring with small teeth and the gaps between the teeth is your window to shift...say this big..... "..........". A faceplated tranny has larger lugs or tabs and the gap between them is this big.... "....................". But you must still use your clutch to engage the tranny.

On the street you will hear a faceplated tranny clunk sometimes if the rpm isn't match appropiately. Much like a detroit locker clunks. But if you get good at it you can rev match and shift somewhat smoothly. But faceplating overall is harder on the gears.

You don't see too many faceplated trannys on street cars. They are mainly on racecars.
Good post Mark.

I'll add....It's probably less intrusive than a detroit locker due too it not changing the way the vehicle acts. Noises are similar with the clunk of a fp'd trans being more pronounced. I only use the clutch under normal driving, once I go wot I very seldom use the clutch, breathe the throttle and pull the gear. You have to have your timing right to do that but it's smooth as silk when you get it right. I have a ignition cut that will go on the car soon. I will be able to flat foot the shift then and the "breathe " will be electronically......ford guys are gonna bitch more when my trap speed goes up more......you guys prepare yourselves

You have to rev match your down shifts.....which as far as I'm concerned if you can't do that you can't drive a stick. Example: In the gf vs bf vid....the guy in the c6 can't drive a stick. Driving a stick takes foot work too. I rev match sycro'd trans on the downshift too, it's smoother that way on the down shift.

It's not harder on the gears. From what I can tell it's actually easier on the gears. The faceplate can break but in 6+ years I have only broke one. The newer faceplate has 7 openings for engagement. Older ones like mine has 9 and are a not as strong and the 7's.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Waits for Hiho to come screaming in saying "My faceplated trans shifts better than a regular trans on the street. My clutch is smoother than a new Toyota Carolla's. And my gf can drive my car."

Just more from the king.
This place would be a lot better off if people like you would stfu. More evidence of you not knowing wtf your talking about.

I like it better. I must like it because it's been that way for over 6 years. If you can't drive a stick then you need the syncro'nannies........if you can then you don't.
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^^ Who knew this guy knew more about faceplated trans than Liberty Gears and Bob Hanlon combined. Gee thanks Hiho! I've been told wrong up until now.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
^^ Who knew this guy knew more about faceplated trans than Liberty Gears and Bob Hanlon combined. Gee thanks Hiho! I've been told wrong up until now.
more bs I see. Liberty did mine.
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