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Old 07-07-2013, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by evangto87
A solid axle swap isnt exactly an easy bolt on... now we are just getting into die hard race cars. And who is gonna buy a z28 and do all that to it... no one. You are more likely to find a Dietcoke car. At the end of the day, my car is still a stock longblock. Ive got about 20-25 more hp lined up for this without opening the motor up. So id love to run into a 500whp z28 on the road. I figure you will be able to pull 200lbs out of them fairly easily and at that point its gonna require some good money to go lighter. Its just a heavy chassis, period.
Being that it will start out at 35xx-3600lbs 200lbs off is plenty to get into vette weight territory. Look what vettes do with that platform. How is an SRA swap for die hard race cars? lol so SRA swapped cobras are die hard race cars too?

Just with rims big and littles itll drop a dick load of weight thats only rims. Imagine LTS, cats, clutch, battery, bumper supports etc...

Your car has all that done AND then some. I don't see you sitting here saying your cars a race car though?
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Originally Posted by evangto87
Always with the corners lol. I didnt exactly put bigs and littles on my car to hit a road course. I have 0 interest in beating anything through turns...And it looks like thats the case in the section with everyone else as well. Its all straight line racing on the street.


Its 3800lbs... SS was 3900lbs... ZL1 is 4100-4200lbs. Its as easy as google lol. All the information is right there in front of you.
I thought i read somewhere it was that much lighter i guess not .either way will kick *** .i can just imagine what it will do once they start modding them..
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Last time i checked the boss was made for the corners lol not that strip
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You should of bought a GT500 if you like racing. Then you wouldn't have to worry about a Zl1 or Z28 popping your cherry lol
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Originally Posted by 1_MEANZ28
I thought i read somewhere it was that much lighter i guess not .either way will kick *** .i can just imagine what it will do once they start modding them..
It will not be 3800lbs. The SS weighs 37xxlbs. It will be around 36xxlbs maybe even lighter. But whats rumored is 100-150lbs lighter than the SS.
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It comes in at 3800lbs 200lbs heavier than the boss
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
You should of bought a GT500 if you like racing. Then you wouldn't have to worry about a Zl1 or Z28 popping your cherry lol
Lol...the ls3 ss is a strong car...gm just wassent think right about the weight..
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
It comes in at 3800lbs 200lbs heavier than the boss
That makes no sense a 5th gen is 37xxlbs and they said it will be 100lbs lighter than that? I think 3800 is an estimate which makes no sense at all.
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To shed pounds, the Z/28 makes due with 19-inch wheels, shaving off 42 lbs. over the 20-inchers found on the SS and ZL1. (There is a notable lesson there...) Gone are the tire inflation kit, trunk carpeting, some sound deadening, fog lights, and most civility. Air conditioning is optional, the rear glass is slightly thinner, and the battery is a lightweight unit. The stereo has been scuttled, with just a single speaker retained for the obligatory seat-belt minder chime. Nine pounds have been cut from the backseat through material changes and doing away with the pass-through ability. In total, the Z/28 weighs 300 lbs. less than the mighty ZL1, or about 3,820 lbs. This puts it at 40 lbs. lighter than a Camaro SS with a manual transmission and 200 lbs. heavier than the recently (and sadly) discontinued Ford Mustang Boss 302.
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ls3 is a great motor. just to much weight
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Maybe they estimated it to be 3,800 lbs just to get the ford fanboy's hopes up. Let them think it will still be heavier than the BOSS. Then watch them squirt some tears when it weighs in at 3,500 lbs.
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lmao ill pray that your right
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Originally Posted by adamantium
Being that it will start out at 35xx-3600lbs 200lbs off is plenty to get into vette weight territory. Look what vettes do with that platform. How is an SRA swap for die hard race cars? lol so SRA swapped cobras are die hard race cars too?

Just with rims big and littles itll drop a dick load of weight thats only rims. Imagine LTS, cats, clutch, battery, bumper supports etc...

Your car has all that done AND then some. I don't see you sitting here saying your cars a race car though?
Im not sure where your getting its weight from. Every single source says they are 3800lbs... the SS is 3900lbs. And the ZL1 is 4100-4200. My particular friends raceweight that day he went 12.4 at 114 was 4400lbs even. And hes 205.

And lets not turn this into what is or isnt a race car. They are all race cars... the only thing that seperates them is the level of work they have done. And a solid axle swap is much bigger then anything i have done to mine. Hell i still run a stock clutch lol. I just recently did a gear swap... i guess thats pretty major?
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Originally Posted by adamantium
That makes no sense a 5th gen is 37xxlbs and they said it will be 100lbs lighter than that? I think 3800 is an estimate which makes no sense at all.
Thats what a GTO weighed... the fifth gens are heavier then GTOs
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Originally Posted by OneSlowV
To shed pounds, the Z/28 makes due with 19-inch wheels, shaving off 42 lbs. over the 20-inchers found on the SS and ZL1. (There is a notable lesson there...) Gone are the tire inflation kit, trunk carpeting, some sound deadening, fog lights, and most civility. Air conditioning is optional, the rear glass is slightly thinner, and the battery is a lightweight unit. The stereo has been scuttled, with just a single speaker retained for the obligatory seat-belt minder chime. Nine pounds have been cut from the backseat through material changes and doing away with the pass-through ability. In total, the Z/28 weighs 300 lbs. less than the mighty ZL1, or about 3,820 lbs. This puts it at 40 lbs. lighter than a Camaro SS with a manual transmission and 200 lbs. heavier than the recently (and sadly) discontinued Ford Mustang Boss 302.
The lightening didn't stop with the suspension and brakes. The rear seat design and material was optimized and the trunk pass-through was eliminated in the quest to save nine pounds. Other non-essential kit such as fog lights, trunk carpeting, a tire inflator kit (except in states required by law), sound deadening and HID headlights were left in the spare parts pile. Even the rear window glass is 0.3 mm thinner. In all, the Z/28 is 100 lb lighter than a comparable SS coupe and 300 lb lighter than the ZL1 coupe.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2YOGFxu6p

Originally Posted by evangto87
Thats what a GTO weighed... the fifth gens are heavier then GTOs
maybe the autos but i remember some people claiming 36xxlbs out of GTOs.
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Originally Posted by Razor01Z28
Maybe they estimated it to be 3,800 lbs just to get the ford fanboy's hopes up. Let them think it will still be heavier than the BOSS. Then watch them squirt some tears when it weighs in at 3,500 lbs.
I hope it weighs 3500lbs... because 3800lbs is retarded for a 2 door sports car. But its not looking too good
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**** should of read on down the page lol
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Originally Posted by adamantium
The lightening didn't stop with the suspension and brakes. The rear seat design and material was optimized and the trunk pass-through was eliminated in the quest to save nine pounds. Other non-essential kit such as fog lights, trunk carpeting, a tire inflator kit (except in states required by law), sound deadening and HID headlights were left in the spare parts pile. Even the rear window glass is 0.3 mm thinner. In all, the Z/28 is 100 lb lighter than a comparable SS coupe and 300 lb lighter than the ZL1 coupe.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz2YOGFxu6p



maybe the autos but i remember some people claiming 36xxlbs out of GTOs.
exactly!! ZL1s are at the lightest...4100lbs. Remove 300lbs... 3800lbs. And i had a GTO. Stock auto was 3780... stock stick car was 3725... and that was 04.. they gained a few lbs for the ls2 model.

One thing good about the z28 is they removed the weight from things you wouldnt typically remove weight from.
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And when i had my ls2 gto everybody said they was pigs lol.
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Originally Posted by evangto87
exactly!! ZL1s are at the lightest...4100lbs. Remove 300lbs... 3800lbs. And i had a GTO. Stock auto was 3780... stock stick car was 3725... and that was 04.. they gained a few lbs for the ls2 model.

One thing good about the z28 is they removed the weight from things you wouldnt typically remove weight from.
Originally Posted by evangto87
I hope it weighs 3500lbs... because 3800lbs is retarded for a 2 door sports car. But its not looking too good
Ah i see i guess that thread i read when it debuted was wrong, cause most guys were saying it would weigh 3600lbs. NVM another GM fail to up sell people to the vette. Thank god i don't own a 5th gen.


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