408-99-f

I'm not saying fords are junk. No one makes an indestructible engine. If you beat it it will brake eventually. I have had better luck with GM through personal experience. And I'm just talking about common stuff not associated with abuse. LS7 motors make up how many percent of LS cars on the road? To say LS motors suck Just because 1 version has a problem I think is wrong. If I had an ls7 I would prob do heads and cam anyway. But that's just me and I'm not everyone. I would still drive a ford over an import.

HioSSilver

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Probably over revved and floated out of the lifter retainer.
We already know there is a issue.
So now you want to compare a a hi perf engine to the run of the mill ford ****???? Really??? Typical ford guy comparison. You can't even get a new ford with over 500hp n/a. Compare the truck engine to truck engine........or we can talk about the fix for the snout of gt500 cranks. Local ford engine guru has did 2 of those so far.

snake95

Where did someone say that?

snake95

Typical GM guy with a chip on your shoulder and the blinders on. The Vette is y'alls flagship car, sorry it has problems.

This. Beating on any engine will shorten the life. There are guys running stock cars with the stock tune on corvetteforum that have had the exhaust valve problem with less than 20,000 miles. That's a flaw, like it or not.

It'llrun

Probably far fewer than Modulars.
They are indeed, as were the Modular from Ford. As intended, each has its limits.

Even if it's only 1 in 1,000, that's apparently not great... I mean, there were about 1 in 4,000 MT-82(or whatever) Getrag 6spds in Mustangs bad, but amongst this crowd, it was the worst transmission ever and Ford SUCKS for it...

Really? Really? Do you pay any attention to the INCESSANT trash talk about the Ford 4.6L and 5.4L on here? Ford hasn't even offered either engine in 3 model years, but to look at it here, Ford still makes the same "crap" they did at the end of 2010... "Ace in the hole" anyone?

Let's hope not. They started with the basic design in 1995... Hopefully by 2014, they've figured out how to build it. It is General Motors, after all.

One BIG difference I see between the Ford guys and GM guys is, Ford guys don't usually claim things like this at all, whereas GM fans seem to go out of their way to claim Ford sucks, ESPECIALLY when Ford bests GM. Anyone who blatantly states the LS7(or any LS series) is junk either has no idea what they're talking about, is angry, is joking or is an idiot. I don't really think that's happening though, and if it is, probably in jest. Nearly everyone (in the automotive world) knows that's one of the best performance designs in mechanical history.

mr. e

I read on ls1tech that you can't over-rev an LSx. Bouncing off the limiter is completely safe.

HioSSilver

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I guess with 0 posts you can't figure out the how's of it.

thunderstruck507

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I personally know 4 people with 2011 GTs. 3 of the 4 have had trans failures of various sorts. and one of those went through 2.

Really makes you wonder how many more were out there not getting reported or being swept under the rug.

Lawhead

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I know the guy who has the worlds fastest MT-82 with all stock hard parts....

And he's gone hundreds of passes with it.....

big hammer

and I know a guy that had his mt 82 pile up in his boss with like 2000 miles on it.

and it made no passes at the track.

big hammer

no you didn't.

Heater

Then that would be a typical GM guy response. WTF does N/A have to do with anything? The dyno doesn't know if a motor is N/A or not, the drag strip doesn't know if a motor is N/A or not.


Here is truck engine to truck engine: the 5.3's after they get some miles on them sound like they have rocks in them when you crank them up. Then there is the cam/lifter failures that everybody knows about. I don't know about you, but I would rather spend $45 and 20 minutes fixing a spark plug hole than as much as it costs in money and time to do a cam swap.

mr. e

Please explain. With your arrogance and post count you've obviously got if figured out.

408-99-f

I do apologize if I came off as an a** hole. I get a little territorial when it comes to My brand and F-body comments lol. I get a lot of crap from mustang and import guys in my area. Not to offend but not one of them havent seen my tail lights. Kinda put that on you all. Im the only GM guy around and always am on the D. Ok that said now just admit GM is the s*** and if Jesus were here today he would be driving one and we can call it a day. JK

It'llrun

It doesn't make me wonder and if it really does you, find a better hobby.

They can't simply sweep losses under the rug... unless they wanna end up like GM, bankrupt. I know at least 12 people with those transmissions and exactly none have had issues... That's people I personally know, not just garbage I read on the internet. There have been clutch issues, but all directly related to racing. Personally, I don't care because if I were to get a new GT, it would have an auto. Since Ford leaves the power alone, it's well worth it.

I suppose I should wonder how many "issues" were faked... but I don't. It's beating a dead horse. We haven't heard of any problems in literally about 2yrs and they've now made over 150,000 units... 200 - 300 complaints amounts to nearly nothing. At the time, there was a 3% complaint rate(which is what I actually guessed it was at that time) and Ford hasn't changed the transmission at all since, yet the problems seem to have disappeared, having only negative affected 2011 models... 2012-14's have been much better... Imagine that. Now we actually have something to wonder over.

You're just like Hio... you know people who have problems with their Fords, but when someone says they have a problem with their own GM, you claim they don't... Who the heck are YOU to know about someone you've never met? The guy could be lying just like you, but why judge so harshly?

He knows everything about GM and Ford products and problems... but please don't ask him to explain it because THAT'S where he starts having trouble...

LOL... I think if Jesus were here today, he'd walk...

It's not that you came off as an ***, but you can see some here simply refuse to live within reality on this matter. They'd rather point to a 2 to 15yr old Ford issue than admit GM has ever had a problem in the past. If you look at the stuff Ford is doing right now, it's all lookin' pretty good or better. GM has that going on too... In TWO areas... They're called Corvette and Cadillac...

Buick isn't far off and if only Chevy didn't offer so much unwanted stuff(Spark, Sonic, Volt, Malibu and Cruze even, though it's better than the others in some ways), it would be there as well. When you have 9 models on your list, you're covering too much and therefore, over-lapping too much. Ford does this with the C-max, Focus and Fiesta imo. They could get by with 1 of those and using the various powertrains for it. Instead, they're now offering a Fiesta ST... Cute, but a waste of space and time.

TastyC10

Whiplash88

Why does every "(insert random car) vs. mustang" thread always turn into a history lesson on fords, who gives a ****.

It'llrun

NEWSFLASH FOR DUMMIES(and newbies)... If ya don't care, go on with your life and leave those of us who do alone, or at least grow up(mentally) and understand that it is what it is, EVEN THOUGH you're a whining fool.

big hammer

I just finished a 16 hour day at work. some imma just call you a homo for now and move on.

HioSSilver

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LOL
You mad that a 5.3 would drag that pos 5.4. Like I said if I had to carry a kit to fix my spark plugs with me when they blew out I wouldn't own that pos. No defending that as hard as you may try.

N/a has alot to do with ****. You can blow air threw anything to make power.....even a pos honda. Some on here please build a n/a ford mod motor that runs respectively. All you guys want to yak about that **** and NONE of you have done it.
If you can't figure out how you need a new hobby.