I got drug, and I'm butt hurt. Real butt hurt. Feelings hurt bad.
#282
Smh at all these 5.bro's.
This race tells the whole story. Auto vs auto.
If a 5.0 keeps up or beats a stick c7 then they can't drive, end of story.
All the hyped up 5.bro 1/4 mile times in -2000 da don't mean ****.
This race tells the whole story. Auto vs auto.
If a 5.0 keeps up or beats a stick c7 then they can't drive, end of story.
All the hyped up 5.bro 1/4 mile times in -2000 da don't mean ****.
#283
Smh at all these 5.bro's.
This race tells the whole story. Auto vs auto.
If a 5.0 keeps up or beats a stick c7 then they can't drive, end of story.
All the hyped up 5.bro 1/4 mile times in -2000 da don't mean ****.
Bolt-on 5.0 Mustang vs stock C7 Corvette - YouTube
This race tells the whole story. Auto vs auto.
If a 5.0 keeps up or beats a stick c7 then they can't drive, end of story.
All the hyped up 5.bro 1/4 mile times in -2000 da don't mean ****.
Bolt-on 5.0 Mustang vs stock C7 Corvette - YouTube
#284
am i the only person who sees the 5.0 becoming the new ls1 of the car world? granted this is a gm site, but seriously. technology improves. cars get faster, engines get better, live with it
#285
How is the 5.0 superior to the ls3? LS3 is lighter, cheaper, smaller phyiscally, easier to package, cheaper and wider aftermarket, has more potential n/a and just as much potential for f/i applications.
LS3 is the new LS1.
The s197 would be a faster and better car with an ls3 than a 5.0.
LS3 is the new LS1.
The s197 would be a faster and better car with an ls3 than a 5.0.
#286
How is the 5.0 superior to the ls3? LS3 is lighter, cheaper, smaller phyiscally, easier to package, cheaper and wider aftermarket, has more potential n/a and just as much potential for f/i applications.
LS3 is the new LS1.
The s197 would be a faster and better car with an ls3 than a 5.0.
LS3 is the new LS1.
The s197 would be a faster and better car with an ls3 than a 5.0.
#287
The sra s197 platform is lighter and better for the track than the heavier irs zeta platform.
There's a difference between a better engine and a better platform. The s197 platform is just for the one car, the mustang, so it's going to be better for its intended purpose. The zeta is a "jack of all trades" platform meant for a wide range of sedans and coupes.
There's a difference between a better engine and a better platform. The s197 platform is just for the one car, the mustang, so it's going to be better for its intended purpose. The zeta is a "jack of all trades" platform meant for a wide range of sedans and coupes.
#288
TECH Regular
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Smh at all these 5.bro's.
This race tells the whole story. Auto vs auto.
If a 5.0 keeps up or beats a stick c7 then they can't drive, end of story.
All the hyped up 5.bro 1/4 mile times in -2000 da don't mean ****.
Bolt-on 5.0 Mustang vs stock C7 Corvette - YouTube
This race tells the whole story. Auto vs auto.
If a 5.0 keeps up or beats a stick c7 then they can't drive, end of story.
All the hyped up 5.bro 1/4 mile times in -2000 da don't mean ****.
Bolt-on 5.0 Mustang vs stock C7 Corvette - YouTube
#289
How am I butt hurt? I just said the s197 is the better platform than the zeta, for which the new camaro is based. But I made valid points pertaining to the capabilities of each motor, came to a conclusion and stated it, then asked an open ended question. In what way is the 5.0 superior to an LS3? I'm failing to see in any way it is. From price to packaging to aftermarket to n/a capabilites to reliability and so on.
#290
Can we stay on topic and have a real discussion about this, or are we going to change the subject ?
LS3
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Displacement: 6.2 L
Dimensions: 27.5" H X 27.5" D X 30" W
Engine Weight: 418 lbs.
Horsepower: 426
Torque: 420
HP/L: 68.7
Coyote
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Displacement: 5.0 L
Dimensions: 27" H X 26" D X 28" W
Engine Weight: 430 lbs.
Horsepower: 420
Torque: 390
HP/L: 84
Both are time bombs above 650 as stock engines. But the ls3 can see over 500 whp with just a cam change. 5.bro's spend thousands of dollars on bolt ons and are lucky to see 50 less than that.
LS3
----
Displacement: 6.2 L
Dimensions: 27.5" H X 27.5" D X 30" W
Engine Weight: 418 lbs.
Horsepower: 426
Torque: 420
HP/L: 68.7
Coyote
-------
Displacement: 5.0 L
Dimensions: 27" H X 26" D X 28" W
Engine Weight: 430 lbs.
Horsepower: 420
Torque: 390
HP/L: 84
Both are time bombs above 650 as stock engines. But the ls3 can see over 500 whp with just a cam change. 5.bro's spend thousands of dollars on bolt ons and are lucky to see 50 less than that.
#291
TECH Resident
iTrader: (3)
Can we stay on topic and have a real discussion about this, or are we going to change the subject ?
LS3
----
Displacement: 6.2 L
Dimensions: 27.5" H X 27.5" D X 30" W
Engine Weight: 418 lbs.
Horsepower: 426
Torque: 420
HP/L: 68.7
Coyote
-------
Displacement: 5.0 L
Dimensions: 27" H X 26" D X 28" W
Engine Weight: 430 lbs.
Horsepower: 420
Torque: 390
HP/L: 84
Both are time bombs above 650 as stock engines. But the ls3 can see over 500 whp with just a cam change. 5.bro's spend thousands of dollars on bolt ons and are lucky to see 50 less than that.
LS3
----
Displacement: 6.2 L
Dimensions: 27.5" H X 27.5" D X 30" W
Engine Weight: 418 lbs.
Horsepower: 426
Torque: 420
HP/L: 68.7
Coyote
-------
Displacement: 5.0 L
Dimensions: 27" H X 26" D X 28" W
Engine Weight: 430 lbs.
Horsepower: 420
Torque: 390
HP/L: 84
Both are time bombs above 650 as stock engines. But the ls3 can see over 500 whp with just a cam change. 5.bro's spend thousands of dollars on bolt ons and are lucky to see 50 less than that.
#292
11 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
Can we stay on topic and have a real discussion about this, or are we going to change the subject ?
LS3
----
Displacement: 6.2 L
Dimensions: 27.5" H X 27.5" D X 30" W
Engine Weight: 418 lbs.
Horsepower: 426
Torque: 420
HP/L: 68.7
Coyote
-------
Displacement: 5.0 L
Dimensions: 27" H X 26" D X 28" W
Engine Weight: 430 lbs.
Horsepower: 420
Torque: 390
HP/L: 84
Both are time bombs above 650 as stock engines. But the ls3 can see over 500 whp with just a cam change. 5.bro's spend thousands of dollars on bolt ons and are lucky to see 50 less than that.
LS3
----
Displacement: 6.2 L
Dimensions: 27.5" H X 27.5" D X 30" W
Engine Weight: 418 lbs.
Horsepower: 426
Torque: 420
HP/L: 68.7
Coyote
-------
Displacement: 5.0 L
Dimensions: 27" H X 26" D X 28" W
Engine Weight: 430 lbs.
Horsepower: 420
Torque: 390
HP/L: 84
Both are time bombs above 650 as stock engines. But the ls3 can see over 500 whp with just a cam change. 5.bro's spend thousands of dollars on bolt ons and are lucky to see 50 less than that.
#293
10 Second Club
#294
Banned
iTrader: (3)
Several cam only ls3's have made over 500whp. There are cam only Ly6's that have aswell. **** cam only JY LQ with milled 317 heads made 477whp through an auto and 9". With the right cam guy and mods its cake for an LS3 to make over 5xxwhp.
#297
TECH Resident
iTrader: (3)
Regardless, dude exaggerates and tries to make LSx anything sound greater than it is.
Last edited by R6cowboy; 05-06-2014 at 09:20 AM.
#298
Again, it's a good motor for a lot of people and performs great with bolt-ons, but it is complicated and does not have nearly as much potential as an LS for the average guy who wants to go being intake/exhaust/tune.
LS series motors can be pulled from a junkyard, rebuilt with ported stockers and a cam, and have a whole motor with 450+rwhp for probably close to what just the H/C swap will cost on the Coyote.
#299
Does anyone here comparing the cost of swapping an ls motor vs a Coyote remember what the ls engines cost back in 2000? If you're not old enough, they were very expensive. Give the 5.0 a 17 year production run and then compare junkyard swaps.