I got drug, and I'm butt hurt. Real butt hurt. Feelings hurt bad.
05-10-2014, 11:38 AM
#481
Ford never made a direct competitor for the vette, but some people are refusing to acknowledge the weight difference of the platform when we were strictly comparing engines in the first place.
Fact is, if the platforms were the same the LS3 would be quicker and faster then the 5.0 every time. You can't be quick to dismiss the weight difference between the 5.0 and the 5th gen, but then have a heart attack when the vette gets brought up which has a similar weight difference to the 5.0.
Fact is, if the platforms were the same the LS3 would be quicker and faster then the 5.0 every time. You can't be quick to dismiss the weight difference between the 5.0 and the 5th gen, but then have a heart attack when the vette gets brought up which has a similar weight difference to the 5.0.
05-10-2014, 12:11 PM
#485
Banned
iTrader: (1)
!["MAC"'s Avatar](data:image/svg+xml;utf8,<svg xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg' viewBox='0 0 50 50'><circle class='avatar-circle-default' fill='%237f3b59' cx='25px' cy='25px' r='20px'></circle><text class='avatar-text-default' x='49%' y='53%' fill='white' text-anchor='middle' alignment-baseline='middle'>"</text></svg>)
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: chattanooga Tn
Posts: 1,352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ford never made a direct competitor for the vette, but some people are refusing to acknowledge the weight difference of the platform when we were strictly comparing engines in the first place.
Fact is, if the platforms were the same the LS3 would be quicker and faster then the 5.0 every time. You can't be quick to dismiss the weight difference between the 5.0 and the 5th gen, but then have a heart attack when the vette gets brought up which has a similar weight difference to the 5.0.
Fact is, if the platforms were the same the LS3 would be quicker and faster then the 5.0 every time. You can't be quick to dismiss the weight difference between the 5.0 and the 5th gen, but then have a heart attack when the vette gets brought up which has a similar weight difference to the 5.0.
05-10-2014, 12:14 PM
#486
Banned
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: chattanooga Tn
Posts: 1,352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Your right it doesn't but the ls3 vette does. N that vette weighs considerable amount less than a Camaro ss and is faster than the 5.0 mustang. Just goes to show what would really happen if GM didn't build a pig of a car with the ls3 would do to the 5.0 mustang...
05-10-2014, 12:18 PM
#488
Banned
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: chattanooga Tn
Posts: 1,352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You can't bring up aerodynamics as an excuse either bc there are plenty of vids with mustangs and camaros and trans ams beating vettes as well just more vids of vettes beating them. Bc of the weight differences mostly aerodynamics help the vette a lot and not saying it doesn't have a part in it. Again plenty of mustang, camaros, and TAs beating vettes.
05-10-2014, 12:25 PM
#489
10 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
Is it me or does it look like the Camaro is coming around the stang on the big end?? Sure looks that way.....about 2/3 a car at the finish from being a car and a half down threw the middle. But fif gens are turds.......hhhmmm
05-10-2014, 12:29 PM
#490
First of all, in the 50's, Ford built a direct competitor for the Vette...it was called a Thunderbird, and Ford had it's *** handed to it in sales compared to the Vette. Second, I can't believe it, but I agree with a lot of 4.slow's logic in this thread. The LS3 in an equal weight vehicle will pull the coyote every time. Does that make it a "better" motor? It makes more power, but far less per cubic inch. So, if you're Hammer, hp/ci means nothing, if you're any other reasonable human, it is the best evaluation of the design of an engine. What you think is best is up to you, me, personally...I appreciate the more efficient design. Not to take away from the LS, as it is excellent as well, just not as efficient.
05-10-2014, 12:33 PM
#491
10 Second Club
iTrader: (8)
Keep dreaming snake. Fact is you're wanting to compare your built ford to what is easily available from gm. You have proved how much you believe in furd by not using their major engine parts.
05-10-2014, 12:34 PM
#492
Banned
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: chattanooga Tn
Posts: 1,352
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
First of all, in the 50's, Ford built a direct competitor for the Vette...it was called a Thunderbird, and Ford had it's *** handed to it in sales compared to the Vette. Second, I can't believe it, but I agree with a lot of 4.slow's logic in this thread. The LS3 in an equal weight vehicle will pull the coyote every time. Does that make it a "better" motor? It makes more power, but far less per cubic inch. So, if you're Hammer, hp/ci means nothing, if you're any other reasonable human, it is the best evaluation of the design of an engine. What you think is best is up to you, me, personally...I appreciate the more efficient design. Not to take away from the LS, as it is excellent as well, just not as efficient.
05-10-2014, 12:36 PM
#493
You are really special. My only point was it makes more power per cubic inch, therefore is a more efficient design. Can't argue with math sweet pea.
05-10-2014, 12:55 PM
#495
10 Second Club
First of all, in the 50's, Ford built a direct competitor for the Vette...it was called a Thunderbird, and Ford had it's *** handed to it in sales compared to the Vette. Second, I can't believe it, but I agree with a lot of 4.slow's logic in this thread. The LS3 in an equal weight vehicle will pull the coyote every time. Does that make it a "better" motor? It makes more power, but far less per cubic inch. So, if you're Hammer, hp/ci means nothing, if you're any other reasonable human, it is the best evaluation of the design of an engine. What you think is best is up to you, me, personally...I appreciate the more efficient design. Not to take away from the LS, as it is excellent as well, just not as efficient.
05-10-2014, 12:57 PM
#496
10 Second Club
the ls3 makes more hp\pound.
WAY more hp\valve.
more hp\physical material used.
more hp\cam.
all just as relevant if not more relevant than ricer math.
05-10-2014, 01:00 PM
#498
10 Second Club
05-10-2014, 01:01 PM
#499
More HP per ci does make the 5.0 more efficient...but that doesn't mean it's a better motor...and when it comes to performance, closely matched STOCK motors are only half the story when it comes to the outcome in a straight line or road course race.