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Old 05-16-2014, 05:20 AM
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Subaru's are slow as ****. Probably one thing most of us can agree on.
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:07 AM
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Nothing like watching two slow turds race lmao
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Old 05-16-2014, 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
Nowhere...ever...ever, ever, ever did I say displacement wasn't king. Point being...take two engines...one making 80 hp/ci, one making 60 hp/ci. Give them equal displacement. Which one would you take?
That's just it.....You CANNOT get your furd to LS displacement! Get the **** over it.
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The main thing I've gotten from this discussion was that if you bought an SS instead of a Z28, apparently you're a moron...?
Pretty much. Myself included. The only thing left on my car that is oe SS is the rear wing and some SS badges. I'd be $$ ahead just buying a Z28. Although I do have everything to put it back to oe condition.
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HP per liter is some honda fan boy ****. The coyote and the 4v are great motors. What's the issue here?
Coyote are great.....4v's just ok.
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Blah blah blah, LITTLE SISTER... The facts remain, no matter how stupid you act...

The Z/28 wasn't being discussed... SS was specifically stated. I just looked it up anyway and the 2002 Z/28 started @ $22,830... the SS was several thousand more... up to more than 35k... anyway, WHAT did you get for the other thousands? Same engine... same transmission. At least in the case of the Cobra, you GOT something worthy of discussion...

What I wonder with you is, how can such a fathead utilize so little brain? It's hilarious... you pick and choose the facts you want like a lunatic Democrat(not that you are one)... while the rest of the world suffers ALL of them alike...

If the 2002 Z/28 was "essentially the same car," then why does the SS draw so much more money per sale today???? Because, like it did back then, the SS COST MORE... Like back then, the Z/28 was more popular... like the Cobra vs Mustang GT back then...

Who's at fault that GM chose the same engine in their Camaro Z/28 and SS? ME? YOU? The GM dude you're blowing??? Nope... GM! Don't hate the player, little one... HATE THE GAME!

You should go back and re-read your posts, his, and HoHo's on the topic(here) and you may have a different take.

To get a handle on the differences in question, let's go big... LS9 vs 5.8L Ford.... Both supercharged... Look at the cubic inch difference and yet. the smaller engine makes more power. It has to do with MANY things, but ultimately, it's just pretty easy to make big power when you have that much airflow capability. High rpm, massive airflow - power.
Yep z28/SS basically the same. The SS package was $3500~.......not a $14,000 change to a cobro.


Now on to the ls9 vs 5.8. If you want to see the true differences then run them at the same boost........but you won't want to see that.

At some point the the ls9 will require a larger supercharger.....because it flows more air. Which is why it can make only 26hp less but on ~4lb less boost.
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Old 05-16-2014, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
This is just stupid. So the 20 hp/inch that a coyote has over an LS3 is overshadowed by the engine weighing 12 pounds more? Got it...
Yes.

Everything else being the same the car wont give a **** if the engine is more or less liters going down the track, but it sure will care if the motor weighs any more or less.
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Originally Posted by Gt4urass
Whichever one makes the most power for it's displacement, for the last time.
You will have better luck talking to a burrito.
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Originally Posted by madmike9396
This so deserves to be quoted again.
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Old 05-16-2014, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
That's including the firebird numbers right?
Nope, and the total Mustang numbers don't include the Capri (although for 93-01 that obviously doesn't apply). So you want to compare the sales of 2 cars to the sales of one? Even in that comparison, F-body exits the building. Even if you double the sales of the Camaro for the stint of years I posted, the total is still less than the Mustang total from 93-01. That's assuming just as many Firebirds sold as Camaros, which I doubt. So it loses the 2 cars vs 1 comparo, too.
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Old 05-16-2014, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Puck
Yes.

Everything else being the same the car wont give a **** if the engine is more or less liters going down the track, but it sure will care if the motor weighs any more or less.
Uhh so the car won't act different if it was a 150 ci motor vs a 400 ci motor?

I keep learning so much here .....
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Old 05-16-2014, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Arctic

so the little guy still, haha gm bailout joke.... too soon?
Ford got bailed out too... truth hurts? Ford also holds the biggest bailout in history. Sounds like they are more government motors than GM will ever be to me...
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Ford got bailed out too... truth hurts? Ford also holds the biggest bailout in history. Sounds like they are more government motors than GM will ever be to me...
They didn't get bailed out.... They were GIVEN money to try to make more efficient vehicles...
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Originally Posted by Lawhead

Uhh so the car won't act different if it was a 150 ci motor vs a 400 ci motor?

I keep learning so much here .....
Ugh ford retards... its ok for you to point out ci but not ok for gm guys to point out the fact yall have more cams, can rev higher, bigger engine etc...?
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Originally Posted by Lawhead

Stop making fun of my ford.... They were GIVEN money to try to make more efficient vehicles... not bailed out.
Yup and GM didn't get bailed out to, like ford they was just given money to make better cars
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Yup and GM didn't get bailed out to, like ford they was just given money to make better cars
You are literally a retard....
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Ugh ford retards... its ok for you to point out ci but not ok for gm guys to point out the fact yall have more cams, can rev higher, bigger engine etc...?
So you're saying the Coyote is a superior design since it has more cams and can rev higher and do more with less CI?
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
...At some point the the ls9 will require a larger supercharger.....because it flows more air. Which is why it can make only 26hp less but on ~4lb less boost.
LS9 flows too much to make any boost brah.

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I like food!
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Uhh so the car won't act different if it was a 150 ci motor vs a 400 ci motor?

I keep learning so much here .....
SRK is very educational.

Originally Posted by "MAC"
Ford got bailed out too... truth hurts? Ford also holds the biggest bailout in history. Sounds like they are more government motors than GM will ever be to me...
Wrong.

Originally Posted by Lawhead
So you're saying the Coyote is a superior design since it has more cams and can rev higher and do more with less CI?
Here comes the back peddling...wait for it.
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Originally Posted by Lawhead
You are literally a retard....
GM be like YO lez take dem dollars frum dat gub'ment
Ford be like YO OHC fast n pushrods suck, too many revs be cheetin' doe.
GM be like git r dun, it's only gay if you swallow! da South will rise again!

That's what I feel like I'm reading whenever Mac posts.
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Originally Posted by snake95
GM be like YO lez take dem dollars frum dat gub'ment
Ford be like YO OHC fast n pushrods suck, too many revs be cheetin' doe.
GM be like git r dun, it's only gay if you swallow! da South will rise again!

That's what I feel like I'm reading whenever Mac posts.
Watch out dude, Mac will give you a swift milkin if you ever meet up!
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Originally Posted by snake95
GM be like YO lez take dem dollars frum dat gub'ment
Ford be like YO OHC fast n pushrods suck, too many revs be cheetin' doe.
GM be like git r dun, it's only gay if you swallow! da South will rise again!

That's what I feel like I'm reading whenever Mac posts.
Haha Ford took gub'ment dollas too, genius.
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Old 05-16-2014, 10:04 AM
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^Doesn't see sarcasm in my post, gets defensive about content of my jibberish mocking post.

Take a shot or take a hit, Mr. Defensive...or are you always this paranoid?
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Originally Posted by snake95
^Doesn't see sarcasm in my post, gets defensive about content of my jibberish mocking post.

Take a shot or take a hit, Mr. Defensive...or are you always this paranoid?
From what I can see, the only thing that your posts mock, is yourself.
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