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Old 07-07-2016, 08:25 PM
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Wow slow times.

One supercharged 6g on the fast list.

1 pass. 1800 DA. Magnuson heartbeat supercharger and DR. No other mods. Pump gas. Full weight. 10.8@128

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...427506&page=10
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Wow slow times.

One supercharged 6g on the fast list.

1 pass. 1800 DA. Magnuson heartbeat supercharger and DR. No other mods. Pump gas. Full weight. 10.8@128

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...427506&page=10
I'm surprised by those times to be honest. Have yet to see a PD blower Ls car that didn't come with it from the factory impress me
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
The lt1 motor failures and DI caking the motor make me hesitant about the 6G
Early stingrays GM claims was due to an oil filter issue of some kind. I have not heard of a lot of problems since then.

The 6g has a catch can built in that the vette does not. You can also add one on the other side of the engine as well. Problem solved.

I believe it is car and driver just did a long term review of a 6 speed manual with 40k miles. Could probably find it with a quick search.

It ran even faster than when new. 12.3 @118. According to some of the stang crowd it should be down about 50hp by then lmao.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Wow slow times.

One supercharged 6g on the fast list.

1 pass. 1800 DA. Magnuson heartbeat supercharger and DR. No other mods. Pump gas. Full weight. 10.8@128

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...427506&page=10
It is what it is, my track is no where near hero track quality.
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Originally Posted by islander033
It is what it is, my track is no where near hero track quality.
I guess so.

The pass I linked to was 1800DA. Nothing hero about that. Good prep though he got a good 60 for having a stock converter.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Early stingrays GM claims was due to an oil filter issue of some kind. I have not heard of a lot of problems since then.

The 6g has a catch can built in that the vette does not. You can also add one on the other side of the engine as well. Problem solved.

I believe it is car and driver just did a long term review of a 6 speed manual with 40k miles. Could probably find it with a quick search.

It ran even faster than when new. 12.3 @118. According to some of the stang crowd it should be down about 50hp by then lmao.
I'll look into it more. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
I'll look into it more. Thanks!
No prob

http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showth...ight=mishimoto

Write up about the build up issue and explanation etc from mishimoto.

They claim GMs solution isn't enough on its own. Nothing on the pcv side. Ill probably get one when I get a 6g. Extra insurance I suppose.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
I guess so.

The pass I linked to was 1800DA. Nothing hero about that. Good prep though he got a good 60 for having a stock converter.
DA alone does not make a hero track, but I'm sure you are already aware.
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Gt350 seems to eat themselves
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Took you over 2 hours to find that 1 failure? It was replaced under warranty....unlike my buddies LT1 vette. Do you swallow after you suck that hard? Lol

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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Mmmm... Possibly. Depends. When if I get one id like to see what it can do full bolt on and e85 with the stock converter at full weight. Wonder how close to tens it could get with good DA etc. I would think tens for sure with an aggressive converter.
I think FBO with oem converter could get you mid to low 11s in good DA. Its possible to knock on 10s with a stall etc. Not saying they can't.. just going by the C7 fast lists, you can see that they don't gain much from bone stock times to bolt on times. I mean I went from 12.46(kiss my *** Hio!! ) to 11.81 (in 800ft more DA) with just my flex tune and e85, and drag pack. We just simply are not seeing those types of gains with the LT1 equipped cars. Again.. not saying they can't. Just not observed yet. No hate from me. They are beast cars.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Poppa in lala land. He struggles with stock 6gen now.
Yeah.. struggles to walk from behind and continue to pull...

Originally Posted by big hammer
True. Headers, tune, e85 and intake is only worth what.... 70 RWHP on an lt1?
Where are the ETs showing it did any good though?


Originally Posted by Jay z28
Loyalty to a single car company is stupid AF. You don't win as a consumer by limiting yourself to one single brand.
I agree with you. Hiocrew might think I am Ford biased... but I am not. I simply defend what I own at the time. I have also been looking at C6Zs and C7 Vettes and considering one when our business picks back up.


Originally Posted by Mike Morris
We have three bolt on LT1 cars betweent 480-500 on pump gas. No bro is doing that
But where are their ETs to back up those numbers? Again.. not saying they can't... just haven't seen the performance per mod from them after their good stock numbers. Even your buddy only went 11.8 tune/tire.

Originally Posted by marc97taws6
The lt1 motor failures and DI caking the motor make me hesitant about the 6G
I really hope Ford stays away from DI. I am kind of waiting to see what is going to be offered in 2018. The 10speed auto alone will be huge gains even if the car stayed the same everywhere else, power etc etc. I would venture to guess that trans alone would put the S550 and 6gen SS door to door bone stock.... with current power.
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Originally Posted by islander033
Took you over 2 hours to find that 1 failure? It was replaced under warranty....unlike my buddies LT1 vette. Do you swallow after you suck that hard? Lol
No...it popped right up. I don't set here and wait fir your dumbass to post. You think you are way more important than you are.

What was done to your buddies lt1? Gm has stated they stand behind their cars on track if stock.
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The Coyote motor has room in it for DI, so I'm thinking Ford may go that route soon.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
No...it popped right up. I don't set here and wait fir your dumbass to post. You think you are way more important than you are.

What was done to your buddies lt1? Gm has stated they stand behind their cars on track if stock.
What causes a dropped valve?
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Originally Posted by islander033
What causes a dropped valve?
May I get shoddy engineering for $500?
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
May I get shoddy engineering for $500?
Speaking of shoddy engineering.
Can I get C7Z06 for $1000 please?
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Originally Posted by islander033
What causes a dropped valve?
Several things could cause it.

You didn't answer the question if it was stock or not. Please do
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
The Coyote motor has room in it for DI, so I'm thinking Ford may go that route soon.
Furd has a leg up on some of this stuff right now. What they are doin with some of their engines is di and normal fi.....very cool but these engines are starting to get more complicated than need be anymore.

For high powered applications that may be the only way to get it done. Getting enough fuel to the new lt's is really their only drawback on making power right now with power adders. A second set of injectors for normal fuel injection would fix that.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Furd has a leg up on some of this stuff right now. What they are doin with some of their engines is di and normal fi.....very cool but these engines are starting to get more complicated than need be anymore.

For high powered applications that may be the only way to get it done. Getting enough fuel to the new lt's is really their only drawback on making power right now with power adders. A second set of injectors for normal fuel injection would fix that.
lol, you crack me up.
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
May I get shoddy engineering for $500?
Originally Posted by R6cowboy
Speaking of shoddy engineering.
Can I get C7Z06 for $1000 please?
Troofs^ and ^^
Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Several things could cause it.

You didn't answer the question if it was stock or not. Please do
It was modded but cam and valve train were untouched, never revved it over factory redline. Sounds like shoddy engineering from GM.....just like the LS7.


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