Originally Posted by JayplaySS2

Good video, saw that this weekend

Originally Posted by AWPer

I'm just a lurker that's been here a while, but I have an '18 A10 GT with 17k miles on it and that motor is a ticking machine lol. It is horrible after a fresh oil change and then will quiet down, some, until the next oil change. I don't worry about the ticking because the car runs strong to me and the A10 is still shifting really nicely. I saw some people talking about what it takes to run E85 in an '18+. I did not have to do injectors or make any modifications to the fuel system, all I did was load up my PBD E85 tune with the nGauge and started datalogging with a fresh tank of E85. I believe most tuners will say because of the dual-injection system, one doesn't have to worry about fueling all the way up to what most would consider FBO NA. I do however keep my nGauge mounted and look at my fueling, knock, and timing quite often. At WOT, the engine runs 32.5 degrees of timing from like 3,000 all the way up to the 7,800 rpm redline, with zero knock, even with all of the "ticking." 0.81 to 0.83 lambda all the way through the power band at WOT. Also, in true bro fashion, I do daily drive with my back seats fully removed, I do however still have the factory driver and front passenger seats in.

However, I am just not feeling the car anymore. I thought I would always be a RWD V8 guy, but I am wanting to get into something different. I have my eyes on the '18+ Audi RS3s with AWD. I would have considered the V3, but I can not keep a car stock, and I think Chevy screwed that LT4 over with making it direct injection only. I think it costs like 5.5k to buy a proper fuel system from WeaponX that will allow the motor to run port injection... However, I don't know what I want, I just know that I want a fast four door with modability.

If you guys want a no BS video that is good to just listen to while doing other things, here is a guy who tunes for Lund and is admittedly a Ford nutswinger, talking about how well Chevy has done with the C8 Corvette and how Chevy basically made the new GT500 dead-on-arrival:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM2XtuohLss

Originally Posted by Chris25

True but I think the argument was more once something that touches oil has been swapped it's no longer bolt on regardless of performance value. But I guess the same could be said for a trunnion upgrade since they are similar mods.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

I know what your saying. That 4whp from rockers that i got didn't do anything either.

Nuffin does nuffin

Here's the deal. If no one wants anything to change that touches oil then NOTHING changes. No cam timing changes....no opg changes.....no rocker changes. Nothing.

Now you open that pandora's box and it's on. 5br0s swing cams.....i change rockers. 5br0s change opg......i do crank scraper. Seems fair right. It's much simpler if no one eff's with anything in the motor. But furd guys are liberals on their mods and conservatives on gm mods.

Originally Posted by kinglt-1

Article I read says Z51 gets 495hp vs the the base Stingray 490hp. I believe the C7 base Stingray was 455hp and the Z51 and GS were 460hp.

Originally Posted by Poppacapp

Yes. That is simply the NPP dual mode exhaust option same as it has been on the C7s and 6gens. NPP adds 5hp from slightly more flow. As far as I know, Base Stingrays, even C7s have been able to add NPP to their cars as an option from day one.

Originally Posted by AWPer

I'm just a lurker that's been here a while, but I have an '18 A10 GT with 17k miles on it and that motor is a ticking machine lol. It is horrible after a fresh oil change and then will quiet down, some, until the next oil change. I don't worry about the ticking because the car runs strong to me and the A10 is still shifting really nicely. I saw some people talking about what it takes to run E85 in an '18+. I did not have to do injectors or make any modifications to the fuel system, all I did was load up my PBD E85 tune with the nGauge and started datalogging with a fresh tank of E85. I believe most tuners will say because of the dual-injection system, one doesn't have to worry about fueling all the way up to what most would consider FBO NA. I do however keep my nGauge mounted and look at my fueling, knock, and timing quite often. At WOT, the engine runs 32.5 degrees of timing from like 3,000 all the way up to the 7,800 rpm redline, with zero knock, even with all of the "ticking." 0.81 to 0.83 lambda all the way through the power band at WOT. Also, in true bro fashion, I do daily drive with my back seats fully removed, I do however still have the factory driver and front passenger seats in.

However, I am just not feeling the car anymore. I thought I would always be a RWD V8 guy, but I am wanting to get into something different. I have my eyes on the '18+ Audi RS3s with AWD. I would have considered the V3, but I can not keep a car stock, and I think Chevy screwed that LT4 over with making it direct injection only. I think it costs like 5.5k to buy a proper fuel system from WeaponX that will allow the motor to run port injection... However, I don't know what I want, I just know that I want a fast four door with modability.

If you guys want a no BS video that is good to just listen to while doing other things, here is a guy who tunes for Lund and is admittedly a Ford nutswinger, talking about how well Chevy has done with the C8 Corvette and how Chevy basically made the new GT500 dead-on-arrival:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM2XtuohLss

Originally Posted by HpipeFlowmasterStang

Good post. Seen the video. I still wouldnt call the GT500 DOA just yet.

Originally Posted by Poppacapp

I understand the argument. And again, I just made the decision while the car was at the mechanics shop while doing other work, to put them on the car. I had already purchased them in anticipation of adding boost. My thinking wasn't to argue whether the OPG/TG made a difference etc.



Meh.. not a big deal to me or worth arguing over for sure. My reasons were mentioned above. I assume we can agree on the fact that my car would have still ran the same times it ran with stock OPG/TG.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Lol....good vid.

C8 gonna be a animal. Now add twin turbos......and the weight from them will be right where you want it.

Originally Posted by JayplaySS2

Isn't the LT2 going to have the same pistons as the LT1?

Originally Posted by JayplaySS2

Isn't the LT2 going to have the same pistons as the LT1?

Originally Posted by snake95

Rug only talks **** on people's drag and 1/4 times and trap speeds WHILE claiming to have road race suspension on his Camaro he has NEVER road raced.

It's all straight line comparisons out the *** all the time, but when he realizes the GT500 will likely assault the C8 in those metrics, it's all about the other stuff There there, rug, the big bad mustang won't hurt you. The C8 is gonna be a badass car, GM should get a gold star for finally producing a mid-engined car.

Oh and if you think you're gonna be able to go to a dealer and bring 60k cash with you and leave with a new C8 then LOLOLOL!!!!

Remember the Hellcat markup years ago? I think this will be even worse.

Originally Posted by snake95

Rug only talks **** on people's drag and 1/4 times and trap speeds WHILE claiming to have road race suspension on his Camaro he has NEVER road raced.

It's all straight line comparisons out the *** all the time, but when he realizes the GT500 will likely assault the C8 in those metrics, it's all about the other stuff There there, rug, the big bad mustang won't hurt you. The C8 is gonna be a badass car, GM should get a gold star for finally producing a mid-engined car.

Oh and if you think you're gonna be able to go to a dealer and bring 60k cash with you and leave with a new C8 then LOLOLOL!!!!

Remember the Hellcat markup years ago? I think this will be even worse.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Yup....but the pistons isn't a issue. And we've been over how to keep the rings happy. The threshold seems to be well past 600whp anyway. So now you're looking at a mild 600+whp mid engined car with just a small amount of boost that rocketed to 0-60 in less than 3sec before the boost. No reason to stress it much. It6gonna be a animal.Ive made laps on 2 different road courses in my camaro........next dumbass accusation please. On top of that it out ran your pile in full road race trim with you in drag trim

Don't erryone like overall performance? I mean you don't even drag race at all so why would you only care about straight line performance?

I use my mustang to outrun other mustangs......like yours.

Originally Posted by UltraZLS1

DOHC twin turbo v8 coming rumor has it

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Yup....but the pistons isn't a issue. And we've been over how to keep the rings happy. The threshold seems to be well past 600whp anyway. So now you're looking at a mild 600+whp mid engined car with just a small amount of boost that rocketed to 0-60 in less than 3sec before the boost. No reason to stress it much. It6gonna be a animal.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Man you really proved what a ****** idiot you are.....200 laps.....lmao. ****** moron. You're dumbass thinks someone is gonna run the 24 hrs of Daytona with their street car.....what a ******* idiot.

My notch is much faster than a 14 psi termi. They would struggle to leave the 12s. So no....it done very well on a 12 yr old dr. That's less tire then you ran on but much faster.

Sounds like a excuse not to run that turd. I'm sure you had plenty of time to hit the track with it while it was in your possession.

Why go through the effort??....cause car guy. Not a sniffling little whine baby like you.

Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Man you really proved what a ****** idiot you are.....200 laps.....lmao. ****** moron. You're dumbass thinks someone is gonna run the 24 hrs of Daytona with their street car.....what a ******* idiot.

My notch is much faster than a 14 psi termi. They would struggle to leave the 12s. So no....it done very well on a 12 yr old dr. That's less tire then you ran on but much faster.

Sounds like a excuse not to run that turd. I'm sure you had plenty of time to hit the track with it while it was in your possession.

Why go through the effort??....cause car guy. Not a sniffling little whine baby like you.