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Old 09-21-2005, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fast89stang
my blue coupe has cobalt ss range power too.......look at its times in my sig
why dont you give a mph or a quarter mile, cause those arent as great looking??

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youre talking not fast and the car in your sig runs 13.53 ??? I dont claim that to be blazing for an LS1.
right but compared to MOST 5.0s 4.6s (not mach 1s haha) it is a lot faster, but thats not all i just need to update the sig and i will soon as i get a new timeslip. and you arent "blazing" for a 5.0 either bud

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98Supersport...I wouldn't downplay 5.0's too much with a 13.532(not that it's a bad time!)....A gear, exhaust, free mods, drag radial car will be nippin at your heels.
until i hit 2nd or 3rd, then its bye-bye ...one of those type of 5.0s minus DRs raced my brothers int/exh a4 lt1 and lost by a couple of cars
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Originally Posted by 98SuperSport
why dont you give a mph or a quarter mile, cause those arent as great looking??



right but compared to MOST 5.0s 4.6s (not mach 1s haha) it is a lot faster, but thats not all i just need to update the sig and i will soon as i get a new timeslip. and you arent "blazing" for a 5.0 either bud



until i hit 2nd or 3rd, then its bye-bye ...one of those type of 5.0s minus DRs raced my brothers int/exh a4 lt1 and lost by a couple of cars
well, my mph has been as high as 98, but its generally 95-96 mph, and its 1/8 mile. I have went 11.99 in the 1/4 coasting about the last 100-150 ft, at 92 mph, that was when my car only went 7.5s on drag radials. it will go some 10.70s now.........all motor.
For the record, my 90 model will get some 14.1-13.9s and its wore out with CAI ,exhaust and 3.73s.....your LS1 should kill those times. My 90 model wont blaze nothing, but if you say my blue car wont, think again. 7.04 is with a road gear, I took out my high gear cause it killed the ET.
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If I am running 7.04 in the 1/4 and its a street car then I dont need to talk smack here. I would own the street. LOL
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Originally Posted by fast89stang
well, my mph has been as high as 98, but its generally 95-96 mph, and its 1/8 mile. I have went 11.99 in the 1/4 coasting about the last 100-150 ft, at 92 mph, that was when my car only went 7.5s on drag radials. it will go some 10.70s now.........all motor.
For the record, my 90 model will get some 14.1-13.9s and its wore out with CAI ,exhaust and 3.73s.....your LS1 should kill those times. My 90 model wont blaze nothing, but if you say my blue car wont, think again. 7.04 is with a road gear, I took out my high gear cause it killed the ET.
o yeah i respect the 5.0s, just not the punks with a catback thinking they own the road...my buddy who works on my car sometimes has a 5.0 that went 11.88 not sure the trap but hes got a new setup going in
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My old white car with 3.73s and drag radials went 11.63 @119mph with a 100 shot. It was a 5 speed. That is the motor that is in my coupe now, but its never been sprayed in this form yet.......notice I said yet. I am really wanting to shoot it with about 150 or so.
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Most 5.0 owners seem like they have something to prove. That something is that they are better than camaros. I have a 91 z28 with bolt-ons(headers,exhaust,k&n,etc) and they still try to tell me that stock 5.0's can beat me. Down at the 1/8 mile track that I go to, the fastest 5.0 there is a 1995 5 speed that runs 9.3@74mph. I'm not sure what his mods are exactly, but I saw lots of trickflow stickers under the hood and his intake was trickflow. Most of the stock or exhaust/air intake 5.0's down there run in the 10's! They usually trap 70-72 mph. My mom's mercury sable ran 10.4@68...LOL.

Anyways, everytime I post a 5.0 kill story i've always gotten the BS flag. What makes 5.0 owners think that they own L98's so bad? I've only lost once to a 5.0 and he was cammed, and even then I only lost by about a car length.
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
Anyways, everytime I post a 5.0 kill story i've always gotten the BS flag. What makes 5.0 owners think that they own L98's so bad? I've only lost once to a 5.0 and he was cammed, and even then I only lost by about a car length.

5.0s could beat L98's stock, so i guess that's all the reason they need. I honestly don't think i've ever seen a modded 5.0, so that supports your "nothing to prove" statement.
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Originally Posted by 98SuperSport

until i hit 2nd or 3rd, then its bye-bye ...one of those type of 5.0s minus DRs raced my brothers int/exh a4 lt1 and lost by a couple of cars
Until you hit 2nd or 3rd? Why does that matter? Like I said, a notch or LX hatch 5.0 with a gear, drag radials, exhaust and free mods will run right with you, or within a couple tenths which is a close race. Yeah, you may trap higher but the ET's(what matters) will be close.
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98Supersport...I wouldn't downplay 5.0's too much with a 13.532(not that it's a bad time!)....A gear, exhaust, free mods, drag radial car will be nippin at your heels.
Ran a 89 Fox with CAI(don't know what kind), longtubes, off road x-pipe, 4.10s, and I don't know what tire he had in my 94 LT1 (CAI, Borla catback, A4) and ran even with him out of the hole and pulled (not hard) up top even though I had the tops off. Our first run was funny cuz we were about even at 75-80 and I start rolling the windows up and that's when I started to pull. I don't know about that car having much to nip at?
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Oh yea that LT1 runs 14.30's...

And the reason the SS would pull him in 2nd or 3rd is that gear and tire will help him out of the hole, but once he gets going fast enough the tire won't matter and the SS will have too much power beyond that. If you don't believe it, think about this, that SS beat an 05 GTO yesterday (A4 i think).

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The 90-92 L98's were faster than all forms of the 5.0 except for the Cobra, plus 5.0's(the fast ones) are manual so there is more room for error. Check any review of Mustang vs. Camaro when they pair the two up in the early 90's. Yeah the 5.0 is easier to mod but that's a whole different story. At the end of this article shows the same 1/4 mile speed between a GT and an 87 TPI 350. Anyone that knows third gens knows the 87 TPI 350's were the slowest made. Had 25 less horsepower and about 30 ft lb of torqueless than Kylez2891's. Know yo stuff, bud. And don't try to tell me I'm wrong.

http://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/articles/vs.shtml

Keep in mind that's an 87.
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Originally Posted by superGMman
Keep in mind that's an 87.
put that up against an 87 speed density 5speed notch.
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put that up against an 87 speed density 5speed notch.
What?
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Originally Posted by superGMman
What?
I cut out too much of the quote. THe l98 camaros, what were the specs on those?
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the 90-92 L98's were rated at 245hp and 345ft lbs. notice the torque. It's low end torque too.
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Originally Posted by 98SuperSport
Ran a 89 Fox with CAI(don't know what kind), longtubes, off road x-pipe, 4.10s, and I don't know what tire he had in my 94 LT1 (CAI, Borla catback, A4) and ran even with him out of the hole and pulled (not hard) up top even though I had the tops off. Our first run was funny cuz we were about even at 75-80 and I start rolling the windows up and that's when I started to pull. I don't know about that car having much to nip at?
Ok, we aren't talking about individual races here. We know what your time is--13.532. The question is, what would it take to get a well running 5.0 within 2 tenths of that time? I know that the mods I listed will put a 5.0 in that time range if the driver has any skill.
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Originally Posted by kyle91z28
Most 5.0 owners seem like they have something to prove. That something is that they are better than camaros. I have a 91 z28 with bolt-ons(headers,exhaust,k&n,etc) and they still try to tell me that stock 5.0's can beat me. Down at the 1/8 mile track that I go to, the fastest 5.0 there is a 1995 5 speed that runs 9.3@74mph. I'm not sure what his mods are exactly, but I saw lots of trickflow stickers under the hood and his intake was trickflow. Most of the stock or exhaust/air intake 5.0's down there run in the 10's! They usually trap 70-72 mph. My mom's mercury sable ran 10.4@68...LOL.

Anyways, everytime I post a 5.0 kill story i've always gotten the BS flag. What makes 5.0 owners think that they own L98's so bad? I've only lost once to a 5.0 and he was cammed, and even then I only lost by about a car length.
95 model 5.0s are junk, most of them run in the 15s stock and I know a buddy that had one that would barely run 9.2s after a gear swap and exhaust and CAI. If you seen a 5spd 87-93 that wouldnt run lower than 9.5, they didnt know how to drive or your track sucks. The very first time I ever went to a race track, I went 9.25 in my 89 with ALL stock parts even wimpy *** 2.73 gears. I was NEVER beat by a LT1.
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Originally Posted by mattkimsey
--13.532. The question is, what would it take to get a well running 5.0 within 2 tenths of that time?
well..............how bout putting a 5 speed in my stock(ok, gears,CAI, exhaust) 90 model ? 8.7s or so would be in order then which would surely equal a 13.70 or so in the qtr mile. It went 8.9s with the shitty slushbox. I knew some of you would have to say it aint stock.
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Its true when your young and dont know much about cars youll think any car is fast I had a 85 Pontiac Bonneville 5.0 305 and I thought that thing was the fastest car in the nieghborhood because of the feel WOT torque pull!Until I raced a 95 9c1 350 LT1 and he made me look like I was standing still! I looked on the internet and realizes my bonneville only had about 155HP which wasnt ****!But someone coming form driving a 90HP 4 cylinder toyota tercel to a 305 v8 will think they are a race car!
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Ok, we aren't talking about individual races here. We know what your time is--13.532. The question is, what would it take to get a well running 5.0 within 2 tenths of that time? I know that the mods I listed will put a 5.0 in that time range if the driver has any skill.
A 14 second LT1 beat the car you are talking about twice in a row...

Its true when your young and dont know much about cars youll think any car is fast I had a 85 Pontiac Bonneville 5.0 305 and I thought that thing was the fastest car in the nieghborhood because of the feel WOT torque pull!Until I raced a 95 9c1 350 LT1 and he made me look like I was standing still! I looked on the internet and realizes my bonneville only had about 155HP which wasnt ****!But someone coming form driving a 90HP 4 cylinder toyota tercel to a 305 v8 will think they are a race car!
Age doesn't matter that much but LS1's are faster than most cars on the street, stock for stock.


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