5.0 Mustang??
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5.0 Mustang??
Ok, so Im driving down the road and I see this loud mustang 5.0. Then I realize its an old friend from highschool and I heard he had a pretty nice new car. So I decide to play a little bit. Well, I beat him twice, nothing but little runs, like 30-85, but i beat him both times, by a couple cars. So we pull over in a parking lot and start talking. First thing he says to me is, and I quote, "I walk these things all the time." I kinda chuckled but didnt want to seem like an *** so I just asked him what he had done, how much he was putting down to the wheels, etc. He told me he was putting down 280rwhp, and that he could run "13 sec. sideways." Meaning, I guess that he has no traction and can still pull a 13 sec. quarter. He has a 302 which has been stroked to 331. a 234/234 cam, ported heads, and some other bolt-ons. Now I am almost positive that, veen if he did catch traction, I would beat him from a dig, but he was EXTREAMLY cocky,and I just let him be that way. Well I dont think a 280rwhp mustang could beat a 360rwhp ls1, or whatever amount of exact power im running. What do you all think. From the little runs we had, I wasnt impressed at all. Oh yeah...the last thing he said to me was, and I quote once again, "Dont let me catch you on a dry day." The ground wasnt really that wet anyway, it showered a bit earlier in the day and was about 56 degrees all day. What do you all think of this guy and his car. Could he beat me if he could hook? Sorry for the long story but I dont like when people run thier mouth and I think they are full of ****.
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depending on what kind of mustang it is, it could have a 2900 (or less) race weight. A 280rwhp with traction (SLICKS) SHOULD run easy mid 12's.
In all honesty (and I HIGHLY doubt you are making 360rwhp, probably more like 340rwhp), that would be an EXTREMELY CLOSE RACE.
In all honesty (and I HIGHLY doubt you are making 360rwhp, probably more like 340rwhp), that would be an EXTREMELY CLOSE RACE.
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If he is making only 280hp and you are making 360hp then you should win hands down. Something doesn't sound right about his set up. A 331 should be making a lot more power than he told you it was making. He said he had ported heads. If these are stock heads that were ported they will not support much horsepower. The stock 5.0 heads had terrible flowing heads even with porting. Looks like he mismatched a large cam with poor flowing heads, this would explain the low hp. If you beat him from a roll and he complained about poor traction, then I would expect you to beat him from a stop.
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Originally Posted by nokeman
wow ok. so a full bolt-on ls1 only makes like 340rwhp? damn i thought it was a little more. oh well...
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depending on what kind of mustang it is, it could have a 2900 (or less) race weight. A 280rwhp with traction (SLICKS) SHOULD run easy mid 12's.
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Originally Posted by ITSTOCK
hence, "depending on what kind of mustang"
Do people not read these days????
Do people not read these days????
no...lol
depending on weight...and what do you mean by full bolt ons? I don't see you making that much power with just header exhaust and a lid.
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hence, "depending on what kind of mustang"
Do people not read these days????
Do people not read these days????
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novea. he said it weighs around 2600 lbs, with ac, full interior, etc.
brandon...by full bolt-ons i mean: lid, bo white throtle body, long tubes loudmouth, ls6 intake, no cats, 4:10's, smooth bellows, nitto drag radials, ngk tr55's, SLP CAI, msd wires,
brandon...by full bolt-ons i mean: lid, bo white throtle body, long tubes loudmouth, ls6 intake, no cats, 4:10's, smooth bellows, nitto drag radials, ngk tr55's, SLP CAI, msd wires,
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novea. he said it weighs around 2600 lbs, with ac, full interior, etc.
brandon...by full bolt-ons i mean: lid, bo white throtle body, long tubes loudmouth, ls6 intake, no cats, 4:10's, smooth bellows, nitto drag radials, ngk tr55's, SLP CAI, msd wires, MAF, TB bypass, 160 stat. I think thats everything. I might be missing pulley.
brandon...by full bolt-ons i mean: lid, bo white throtle body, long tubes loudmouth, ls6 intake, no cats, 4:10's, smooth bellows, nitto drag radials, ngk tr55's, SLP CAI, msd wires, MAF, TB bypass, 160 stat. I think thats everything. I might be missing pulley.
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novea. he said it weighs around 2600 lbs, with ac, full interior, etc.
brandon...by full bolt-ons i mean: lid, bo white throtle body, long tubes, loudmouth exhaust, ls6 intake, no cats, 4:10's, smooth bellows, nitto drag radials, ngk tr55's, SLP CAI, msd wires, MAF, TB bypass, 160 stat. I think thats everything. I might be missing the UD pulley.
brandon...by full bolt-ons i mean: lid, bo white throtle body, long tubes, loudmouth exhaust, ls6 intake, no cats, 4:10's, smooth bellows, nitto drag radials, ngk tr55's, SLP CAI, msd wires, MAF, TB bypass, 160 stat. I think thats everything. I might be missing the UD pulley.
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Originally Posted by nokeman
novea. he said it weighs around 2600 lbs, with ac, full interior, etc.
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Originally Posted by 90nova
Just didn't want him to think that it is easy for mustangs in general to be that light. The coupe with a 5.0 is the rarest one on the road, most are going to be an lx or gt hatchback which are in the 3400lb weight class. Or if it is a 94 or up it is closer to 3500 lbs, my 95 conv weighed almost 3800.
With your setup you are most likely closer to 340rwhp, just look around on this site and you shall see
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My 91 hatch weighed 3310 with me in it, when I weighed 165#'s, and my 86 notch weighed 3140 with me in it (same weight), BOTH full weight(and both with pony rims).
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Something tells me he's not telling you everything he has....Its just not real often that you find a 331 with stock E7 heads (even ported)....Whats the compression? Its not "that" hard to believe that he has a kit on a car with a built motor....
Just some thoughts
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Just some thoughts
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that 2600 seems off. Is that with him in it or not? I run a full interior, but all LX stuff which is very light, no a/c, no smog, and alot of little wieght reduc here and there, and my weight is in my sig (including me at around 170).
His car should be fast, but I wouldnt be too afraid of it if I was you.
BTW, does anyone else think those are crappy numbers for a 331? I hope he doesnt still have e7's on it. I dont know who would do that.
His car should be fast, but I wouldnt be too afraid of it if I was you.
BTW, does anyone else think those are crappy numbers for a 331? I hope he doesnt still have e7's on it. I dont know who would do that.
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My 1988 5.0 GT with all the heavy duty crap in it weighed in at 3240 with 11 gallons of gas according to D.O.T certified scales. I have around 280rwhp and I really am nowhere near mid 12's, prolly low 13's to be honest is what I am guessing I run. As far as the other guy, if his heads are ported E7's, no wonder he doesnt make more. He needs some heads on that combo.
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
My 1988 5.0 GT with all the heavy duty crap in it weighed in at 3240 with 11 gallons of gas according to D.O.T certified scales. I have around 280rwhp and I really am nowhere near mid 12's, prolly low 13's to be honest is what I am guessing I run. As far as the other guy, if his heads are ported E7's, no wonder he doesnt make more. He needs some heads on that combo.
Looking at your mods, with some good tires, you should have no problem gettin a 12 second pass my man....Just my opinion of course, but I don't think it'd be too hard
-Will