Gas vs Diesel
08-19-2007, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
News to you dumbass, this a f-body specific forum offcourse 3rd gens are cool. My car gets a hell of a lot more looks than a diesel truck and can do close to 200 on the freeeway and can still get 25+mpg. Find me a diesel truck that can do that 
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.You can't be serious..?!
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08-19-2007, 05:20 AM
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Thats awesome, my first sig quote. What am i thinking? No 3rd gen is fast or capable of 200mph, maybe thats why half of top land speed cars are 3rd gens and multiple drag racing records are held by them. Read the thread dumbass and educate yourself before you make sig quotes.
08-19-2007, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
Read the thread dumbass and educate yourself before you make sig quotes.
Good luck with that on top-end. You might, might get 170's before you run out of RPM's.
I know what the ZZ4 350's are..but the way you have it setup, it's a Torque Engine, not a HP Engine like it should be.
Here is the Cam I have in mine..notice how much bigger the numbers are..
243/247, .621/.612, 114+3 LSA.
And it's combined with some damn good Heads.
08-19-2007, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by iamnitrox
I saw one try to run at firebird raceway. He said he had like 500hp on his F250. He was pulling high 16 seconds.
08-19-2007, 09:28 AM
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Diesel would be cool but for the fact that it often has a narrow powerband. There are VWs putting out more TQ than stock F-Bodies. yet they are slower since they have 0 top end and thus cant use any kind of good gearing.
Now some of the modern stuff is fixing that. But I would hardly call diesel the future of performance. Sho me an 800WHP Gasoline drag car and an 800WHP Diesel drag car and I'll show you a win for gas. TQ is not all that useful if its all down low and on a narrow powerband.
Now some of the modern stuff is fixing that. But I would hardly call diesel the future of performance. Sho me an 800WHP Gasoline drag car and an 800WHP Diesel drag car and I'll show you a win for gas. TQ is not all that useful if its all down low and on a narrow powerband.
08-19-2007, 12:15 PM
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The problem is that truck diesels are designed for a completly different purpose. They are built to work. You can pull the crap out of them every mile of their life and they will still almost live forever. Like the_merv said they only rev to 3-4k RPMs. That is why they can't convert thier massive torque numbers to massive hp numbers. In all honesty though if you took a diesel revved it to 5500-6000 RPMs like our cars, ran at least a 20:1 compression ratio, and turned up the A/F ratio thier wouldn't be any gasoline engine that could touch it. Ci for Ci a diesel can produce more torque, simple as that.
08-21-2007, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Here is a C6 Z06 0-190mph..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6EiNFiLhV0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6EiNFiLhV0
Believe it or not it takes a bunch of hp to get that extra 10mph at those speeds. I don't know the formula be someone posted it earlier.
08-21-2007, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
You need to leave this ******* site dumbass,
Originally Posted by capn dickweed
stock ls1 cars do 175. And if you want to talk about how slow my car is why dont you bring your cobra down and run me? 121 trap speed and 586whp is pitiful,
As for the 121 trap, it was pathetic. If you watched the vid you saw that it spun in every gear.
Originally Posted by capn smegma-breath
also i dont know where you got your facts or what makes you think a z06 cant do 200 but i believe there are plenty of members who own z06s and can vouch for it.
Lastly, we're still waiting for you to PROVE your car will do 200. You're continuing to prove that your mouth is by far your biggest feature.
08-21-2007, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
News to you dumbass, this a f-body specific forum
08-22-2007, 06:19 AM
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The problem is that truck diesels are designed for a completly different purpose. They are built to work. You can pull the crap out of them every mile of their life and they will still almost live forever. Like the_merv said they only rev to 3-4k RPMs. That is why they can't convert thier massive torque numbers to massive hp numbers. In all honesty though if you took a diesel revved it to 5500-6000 RPMs like our cars, ran at least a 20:1 compression ratio, and turned up the A/F ratio thier wouldn't be any gasoline engine that could touch it. Ci for Ci a diesel can produce more torque, simple as that.
Any similar forged gas motor running high boost has similar torque numbers. You have to realize, diesels run around 18psi bone stock, built motors push 40psi.
Like you said they work total different. But to say cube per cube they put out more torque is debateable. Like I said, N/A diesel versus same cubed N/A gas motor and their torque is very similar under close compression ratios. Difference is, 90% of it's torque comes under 1000 rpms versus gas is around 2k rpms. Basically, all of it's power is at low rpms for pulling.
edit: The greatest advantage is gas mileage. Diesels get 6-8mpg better for simlar sized vehicles.
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08-22-2007, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
You are a ******* retard, I think you are mad because your cobra cant do 200. Everyone I run into compliments me on my car, Im not saying its super badass or bragging but it is far from a migrant worker car. And btw it only takes about 450-475hp to push a 3rd gen into the 200 mph range and I make that much n/a, so what makes you think that i cant do 200mph on a small shot of nitrous? Btw my speedo only goes to 85, lol.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/chevrol...6-ar11909.html
08-22-2007, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
Pay attention retard, I do have a 6-speed that is capable of reaching 180 in fifth gear and sixth will take me well over 200 if im brave enough. And FYI A C6 Z06 IS WELL CAPABLE OF 200+ IN STOCK TRIM, are you stupid enough to believe GMs 198mph claim? And if you did a little research you would realize that 3rd gen f-bodies are one of the most aerodynamic cars ever made with a frontal area of 20-22 sq. ft and a drag coefficient of .29-.31. The Z06 has a frontal area of 21sq ft. and a Cd of .34, so my car is technically more aerodynamic and therefore more capable of reaching 200 at the same power levels as a Z06. I am not by any means claiming that my car is safe at those speeds but I am saying that it is well capable of doing them. So why dont you just stfu because you will lose this argument with the massive amount of knowledge you have acquired from all 0 of your posts.
You realize the effect this has at higher speeds, right? The headligt buckets alone on your car are enough to create tremendous drag at 100+.
http://www.vetteweb.com/features/040..._c6/index.html
"with a remarkably low .28 coefficient of drag (the sleek C5's drag coefficient is .29)."
08-22-2007, 09:52 AM
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I saw a Dodge run an 11.06 in the 1/4 (don't remember the mph) a few years ago at the local track. It looked and sounded really ugly when it was staged and revved-up but going down the track it was pretty cool. It broke at the hit the next run.
I don't know crap about them and didn't look at it(or talk to anyone)in the pit so I can't offer any helpful information about it.
I don't know crap about them and didn't look at it(or talk to anyone)in the pit so I can't offer any helpful information about it.
08-22-2007, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I said that I saw a vid of a 190mph run..and I delivered on that..
Not ripping you, just saying that I'll continue to call bullshit on the 200 claim until proof appears.
Originally Posted by the_merv
For all intents and purposes..I am the only one that has backed a claim..