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Old 08-22-2007, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
The Cd of your car is .34. The C6 is .28. You basically have them backward.
You realize the effect this has at higher speeds, right? The headligt buckets alone on your car are enough to create tremendous drag at 100+.

http://www.vetteweb.com/features/040..._c6/index.html

"with a remarkably low .28 coefficient of drag (the sleek C5's drag coefficient is .29)."
Term, I think I got my info from the same article but I thought it went on to say that the Z06 coefficent is raised to .34 due to mods applied to create downforce.

This is interesting since the '08 Vette will supposedly do 190 (w/ the additional 38 hp it has). I'd bet it doesn't have the Z06 aero mods which is why it manages to get that high.

In any case you and I are in complete agreement about capn_smoke-a-pole's claims.
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Originally Posted by capn smokescreen
You need to leave this ******* site dumbass, stock ls1 cars do 175.
Read it and weep, Cupcake. Let me save you some time... go to the bottom of the page.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z171/default.aspx

I can see this being off by a few mph but TWENTY?
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[QUOTE=cj8718]Term, I think I got my info from the same article but I thought it went on to say that the Z06 coefficent is raised to .34 due to mods applied to create downforce.
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I think I saw the article you refer to. If I am correct, it was a modified 06 Z06 that they tweaked the body on to get more downforce for road racing testing. IDK

Even if the Cd is equal between the C6Z06 and capn smokey's camaro, the facts in no way support his claims. The gearing for the vette is superior as is the weight. IF smokey were to try and acheive 200, and IF he could do 170 with his gearing in 4th even with spray he would find shifting to overdrive gear would lose significant speed. Swapping in a T56 would help only marginally.

No offense, just trying to keep things real.
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This thread has turned to ****. I suggest a lock.
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Originally Posted by cj8718
Well Merv... you get the "I Answered A Question Nobody Asked" award.

Not ripping you, just saying that I'll continue to call bullshit on the 200 claim until proof appears.
Does it come with a cookie..

Yea..190 is still haulin *** though.

The 3 of us are in agreement really..
1. That Gen 3 Mullet Machine is pretty much a Brick on Wheels with the aerodynamics it has.
2. I got into it earlier in the Thread..he doesn't have enough Engine.
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Originally Posted by NoFive0
This thread has turned to ****. I suggest a lock.
I agree. 3rd Gen Boy isn't coming around anymore to defend his ridiculous claims.
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Originally Posted by the_merv
Does it come with a cookie..
For you Merv... anything.

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Yea..190 is still haulin *** though.
Sure is... a speed I don't need to try. I've gone high 170's on a sportbike and put the sumbitch up for sale the next day. Stooooooopid.
Old 08-23-2007, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
News to you dumbass, this a f-body specific forum offcourse 3rd gens are cool. My car gets a hell of a lot more looks than a diesel truck and can do close to 200 on the freeeway and can still get 25+mpg. Find me a diesel truck that can do that .
http://www.bankspower.com/sidewinder.cfm
Just couldn't help myself. This thread is too funny. I know lots of guys around south GA that have some bad *** trucks. These trucks can haul a load and haul ***. Pushing 9000 lbs into the 11 sec zone is no easy matter. How about this for mpg. http://www.bankspower.com/sidewinder-mpg.cfm

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Um, I really do not think an LS1 top speed is only 155mph. They go faster than that.

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Originally Posted by hurley_21_07
Um, I really do not think an LS1 top speed is only 155mph. They go faster than that.

Dan

Proof? Definitely not without removing the factory tune w/limit...

I'll stay tuned.
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Originally Posted by hurley_21_07
Um, I really do not think an LS1 top speed is only 155mph. They go faster than that.

Dan
ls1s been known to hit 165-170 bone stock with the govenor removed. This is the 6 speed of course.

It takes allot of power to hit 200mph. There is a big difference in power once you get in those 170+ speeds.

And honestly, I don't care how much power you have. There is a point in which the terminal velocity of the car will be the issue, not just power. Like I said, without any additonal aerodynanics added to the car. It takes more than just power.
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Originally Posted by 04Terminator
Proof? Definitely not without removing the factory tune w/limit...

I'll stay tuned.
I didn't even think the LS1's had a governer, but of course if they do then yeah you need to remove it, but they can definately do more than 155.

Dan
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Banks built a 283mph 3rd gen and it only had 1800hp, im sure a zz4 3rd gen can do 200
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dude fourth gens are more areo dynamic than third gens and vettes are better then 4th gens. But third gens are way cooler than vettes and 4th gens.
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an lt1 m6 car will do 155 so i know an ls1 is faster than that.

ive heard 160+mph
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That 3rd Gen of his will be lucky if it saw that..

Not to trash the guy..but that Car isn't the greatest for speed.

He must be lookin at the km side of the Gauge..
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Alright dumbasses her you go. http://racingarticles.com/article_racing-21.html
Check this out too. http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl...aro/index.html
Hows that for proving my claim? And BTW my car makes 600+ on spray and I have a T-56 with 3.42 gears so theoretically I can do around 250mph with enough power, so no I do not run out of gear and yes my car is capable of 200mph. **** all of you for your blatant ignorance and stupidity, Im out on that note. Peace.
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Look at this also- http://www.car-videos.com/tools/spee...B1=Recalculate
These numbers are pretty accurate, Ive tested them with other cars pacing me and gps.
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
...and yes my car is capable of 200mph. **** all of you for your blatant ignorance and stupidity, Im out on that note. Peace.
$5 says it not capable..aerodynamics, and suspension.

You will be lucky to hit 160's and not be shaking all over the place. Some air gets under that car, and it's over..
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
Alright dumbasses her you go. http://racingarticles.com/article_racing-21.html
Check this out too. http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl...aro/index.html
Hows that for proving my claim? And BTW my car makes 600+ on spray and I have a T-56 with 3.42 gears so theoretically I can do around 250mph with enough power, so no I do not run out of gear and yes my car is capable of 200mph. **** all of you for your blatant ignorance and stupidity, Im out on that note. Peace.
those cars have chassis modified. They are not standard bodies.

They are lowered and have suspension work, etc.

I'll say it again, a bone stock 3rd gen will have terminal velocity problems due to design.

The car needs after market parts.

And by all means, don't compare the salt flats to the streets.

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