Beat a 99ish Cobra in my LT1
01-21-2008, 08:57 PM
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I was poking fun...and for the last time I have an ls1 not an lt1...its an lt1 car....read between the lines. Believe it or not I wouldn't mind having a 4.6...for a daily driver. My only arguement is that by the time you spend enough to build a 4.6 to run with an modern fbody with a good driver, he could put a 100 shot on his car and watch you fade in the mirror
01-21-2008, 09:02 PM
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who would leave their bottom end stock if they wanted to push 500+RWHP. there are quite a few stock bottom end 99/01's making over 400RWHP with a heads/cams package, and ported intake.
to do 500RWHP on a 3V, yoru going to have to add boost, and a more realistic HP number for a safe stock bottom end is about 425-450. 500RWHP on a stock bottom end in a 3V is a ticking time bomb, ive seen several of them pop, i work at a mustang shop, and have had several of them blow.
and ever think maybe he isnt a very good driver. and when you say "around 320RWHP" did you dyno it, or are you guessing.
to do 500RWHP on a 3V, yoru going to have to add boost, and a more realistic HP number for a safe stock bottom end is about 425-450. 500RWHP on a stock bottom end in a 3V is a ticking time bomb, ive seen several of them pop, i work at a mustang shop, and have had several of them blow.
and ever think maybe he isnt a very good driver. and when you say "around 320RWHP" did you dyno it, or are you guessing.
i know hes a good driver we took his car to a 1/8 track and he made 2 passes in it and i made 2. and they were within .2 of each other all 4 runs. but yes i had it dynoed, it made 318rwhp and 330rwtq b4 i changed the gears, with just the couple bolt-ons i had at the time.
and as for the realistic safe hp, if your having all these motors pop then its the tuners fought, i truely believe my tuner is the best modular motor tuner in the country,Tim Barth at modularpowerhouse, but he has tuned prob 30+3v stangs that i know of makin 480+rwhp. many over 500 mine being one of them. and as far as i know he has never had a motor pop due to his tuning. i would not consider mine a time bmb either its a dd, ive had the tubo on 6 months prob and put over 10,000 miles on it thus far without one issue.
01-21-2008, 09:04 PM
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if it was a navy blue, it was a 01. 99's were red, white, black, and green.
and from the way it ran with you, it was a cobra, a GT would have been nowhere near that close.
a few 2V GT's stock have run 13.9s with excellent drivers, and better tires. with stock tires and a good driver they're typicall low - mid 14 cars. general comparison a 99/01 cobra, or 03/04 mach would be closer to stock LS1 car, or a slightly modded LT1. a 99-04GT needs full bolt ons to even hang with a stock LS1.
and 95N20FORMULA, you should watch what you say comparing "mustangs" to LT1's, because i have news for you, a 03/04 cobra, or a GT500 will **** your **** all up.
and from the way it ran with you, it was a cobra, a GT would have been nowhere near that close.
a few 2V GT's stock have run 13.9s with excellent drivers, and better tires. with stock tires and a good driver they're typicall low - mid 14 cars. general comparison a 99/01 cobra, or 03/04 mach would be closer to stock LS1 car, or a slightly modded LT1. a 99-04GT needs full bolt ons to even hang with a stock LS1.
and 95N20FORMULA, you should watch what you say comparing "mustangs" to LT1's, because i have news for you, a 03/04 cobra, or a GT500 will **** your **** all up.
3 things
1.i was talkin about 2v stangs AS this thread had moved towards 2vs vs lt1s
2. im bolt ons and 125 shot and id roast a stock gt500 or termy...
3. mod for mod an lt1 is a drivers race with most mustangs except termys and maybe, just maybe a mach
01-21-2008, 09:44 PM
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I was talking about NA motors as well, but of course you cant throw the termis at me b/c I know they're fast as evident in my previous post. Redneckbmxer24 is prolly one on the smarter ford guys as he atleast starts with a 5.4. Man you ford guys get riled easy. Also as I said before in other threads I think the 3v motors are impressive. The problem with the modern mustang of course is weight. Put those motors in a foxbody then I might get excited.
01-21-2008, 10:15 PM
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I find it humerous that the 15 year old LT1 is still competitive with current mustang gts... and before I get bashed for saying that, yes I know the terminator and GT500 are very fast and have tons of potential. I drove my uncle's GT500 when he first got it and I was very impressed, it didn't feel like a "heavy" car at all and pulls very nicely; it also gave me the mod itch to start doing motor work to my car...(hopefully early this summer).
Can't even get near the aftermarket support as Mustangs or even LS1's...
01-21-2008, 10:41 PM
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I was talking about NA motors as well, but of course you cant throw the termis at me b/c I know they're fast as evident in my previous post. Redneckbmxer24 is prolly one on the smarter ford guys as he atleast starts with a 5.4. Man you ford guys get riled easy. Also as I said before in other threads I think the 3v motors are impressive. The problem with the modern mustang of course is weight. Put those motors in a foxbody then I might get excited.
01-21-2008, 11:36 PM
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Well unless otherwise stated, it's generally understood that we're talking about the V8 models 
. But your car weighs ~50-100lbs more than a similarly-equipped 99-04 V6.
. But your car weighs ~50-100lbs more than a similarly-equipped 99-04 V6.
01-21-2008, 11:48 PM
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well, i respect mustangs all my buddies home have one, but i have yet to race a gt, and the ones i have come across won't race me, and alot of gt owners i have met here are idiots, my co-worker has a 99 gt, kn, catback, auto, tune? and thinks he has 300rwhp. yesterday he said my lt1 was "a pu55y *** engine", i told him i'll smoke em anyday he wants. know what he told me, " i'll never race you cuz you have a 5spd" these are the mustang guys i run into now. sad.
01-22-2008, 12:49 PM
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im just tired of all the ford guys acting like a SUPERCHARGER doesnt INCREASE power DRASTICALLY. the 03/04 cobras wouldnt be king kong without their blowers. you all act like its not a valid argument
. when thats the ONLY thing that gives them so much "potential" as you guys like to say. a SUPERCHARGER gives any v8 more "potential"
including an lt1
. when thats the ONLY thing that gives them so much "potential" as you guys like to say. a SUPERCHARGER gives any v8 more "potential" including an lt1
01-22-2008, 12:56 PM
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im just tired of all the ford guys acting like a SUPERCHARGER doesnt INCREASE power DRASTICALLY. the 03/04 cobras wouldnt be king kong without their blowers. you all act like its not a valid argument. when thats the ONLY thing that gives them so much "potential" as you guys like to say. a SUPERCHARGER gives any v8 more "potential" including an lt1
. when thats the ONLY thing that gives them so much "potential" as you guys like to say. a SUPERCHARGER gives any v8 more "potential" including an lt1
01-22-2008, 01:15 PM
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-and no, im not calling you stupid
01-22-2008, 01:22 PM
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im just tired of all the ford guys acting like a SUPERCHARGER doesnt INCREASE power DRASTICALLY. the 03/04 cobras wouldnt be king kong without their blowers. you all act like its not a valid argument. when thats the ONLY thing that gives them so much "potential" as you guys like to say. a SUPERCHARGER gives any v8 more "potential" including an lt1
. when thats the ONLY thing that gives them so much "potential" as you guys like to say. a SUPERCHARGER gives any v8 more "potential" including an lt1