HoLLo

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As i hate to say it, due to the fact that rice requires a turbo to make the car slightly fast and w/o it it's nothing, but power is power is power.

TXFORMULA

if ford had done that, i doubt they would be the easy 500rwhp machines they are. it would take more to get them there. my whole point is that a blower makes a difference. if you take a n/a motor thats built right and add fi you see added power.so many aspects come into play from motor to motor and person to person its hard to really compare. i dont hate mustangs. there are things i dont like about them but there are things i dont like about most cars.ive driven a mustang,now i drive an fbody. i had/have my dislikes about both. im just saying they dont call sc & turbos power adders for nothing

METALBEAST

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None that I have seen. And I have seen and raced a whole helluva lot. And not biased here. I own both a Mustang and Camaro.

Redneckbmxer24

he would be lucky to see 250RWHP through that auto with those very few mods.

you'll waste him.

95hitam6

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i know but it pisses me off, he talks ****, but when i say lets race he already has 100 excuses why he can't or won't win, and just won't say my cars faster.

brian06eleanor

take a bonestock lt1 put a supercharger of your choice @9psi on, and what will it make?

take a bonestock 3v and do the same and you will make 460-500rwhp

TXFORMULA

you cant compare two motors with different displacements and different intakes and compare them at the same level of psi. that number is measuring the amount of pressure created from restriction- not airflow. which engine has more restriction could be arguable bc the lt1 is larger in displacement but the 3v has an extra valve per cylinder.that just seems like a bad point to me

this reminds me of when i noticed mm&ff magazine bragging about how they made 21lbs of boost on a mustang with the SAME turbos they took off an lt1 that only made 19lbs. same turbos/same airflow with MORE restriction on the mustang

88blackgt

i wasnt saying that a blower doesnt make a difference. "the cobra needs a blower to keep up w/ the ls1 and thats cheating" argument was old in 2003 and it amazes me people still repeat it.

i prefer a FI car to a n/a car any day of the week

brian06eleanor

okay, well that right there proves my statement, with the same mods the mustang makes more power regardless of the downfalls the lt1 has

TXFORMULA

i think you fail to see the point. those 2lbs of extra boost on the mustang are a negative thing. the mustang WAS NOT getting anymore airflow,was not making anymore power than the lt1 yet it showed more boost bc it was more restrictive consequently causing MORE pressure on the motor,which isnt good...

new mustang owners pay $19000+ for 25 more hp than an lt1 that can be had for $5-7k. THAT'S a downfall. if you are going to talk about downfalls, please explain.

TXFORMULA

i hear you but that wasnt the argument i was trying to make. having a blower isnt cheating. i would rather have a fi car as well.

Redneckbmxer24

tell him to put up, or shut up, which is it.

next time he talks **** say hey, lets go right now. he will only shut up once you wax his ***. he may make up excuses before, but 9 times out of 10 once you wax their *** they STFU.

for instance theres a 88CRX around my way that belongs to this girl im banging outs brother, it has a fart can, plug wires, and a POS pep boys intake, and he KNEW we was going to kill my 650WHP cobra.

needless to say he STFU when i MURDERED him in my 8000LBS F250 with a bigger turbo, methanol, and 38PSI, that runs mid 12's. i simply said hey, you beat my truck, ill race you in the cobra. havent heard him talking **** since.

EDIT: andby murdered i mean launch brake boosting at 25PSI, in 4WD, smoke all 4 tires for a good 50 feet, and continue to put 20 buslengths on him by 120.

Irunelevens

Please... not this one.

I8ASaleen

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Wow this thread went south even from when I posted in here last. I'll just say that teh LS1 can nevar loose, and this thread is done

TXFORMULA

cant handle the truth ? i mean really. who the hell are these guys that will pay 19k for a mustang gt when for the same or less you could have an ls1 fbody or a terminator. knock me all you want. you know its true

brian06eleanor

find me a nice terminator for 19,000 and i will buy it 2marrow, y do ppl but dodge vipers for 80,000 when they could buy my car for 45K and beat them, because ppl buy what they want, like, and can afford so take that bs arguement somewhere else!

Irunelevens

Why buy an '02 LS1 F-body when you can spend half as much as get a '98? Why buy an '04 Vette when you can spend half as much and get a '97? Like I said, please not this argument.

TXFORMULA

yeah, and ford guys like cobras. so why buy a gt for what you could have a termi for ? ? ? 19k will get you one that runs decent with some mileage on it.22k should get you one with reasonable mileage on it. its you guys that are on here ALL the time talking 04 cobra this and 04 cobra that.so if all you stang guys love them so much why did any of you buy a 05-up gt ? ? ? i also think its funny how you had nothing to say when i made a response to your "mod for mod" argument but you jumped on this like a lab screwing a poodle. you take your bull**** somewhere else!

TXFORMULA

it wasnt that argument at all. eleanor was talking about the "downfalls" of lt1s(which he never came back and explained) so i thought id point out the fact that an lt1 car is a reasonably priced platform to start a build with. with my other 12k i could make it ALOT faster than an 07 gt.

88blackgt

this thread is comparable to a pack of retards running into a wall