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Old 06-10-2009, 09:35 AM
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if anyone with personal experience could put in some input that would be great...this will be for a 85% street driven car and 15% track car.

how is it driving on the street?
do you regret going to manual steering?
are there direct bolt in manual R&Ps?
how many turns from lock to lock?
any adhered problems from switching to manual?
Old 06-10-2009, 09:21 PM
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Free bump. I'd like to know as well.
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with those big wheels on your car, it will probably suck. Friends mustang had no power steering and big tires, what a workout that was... if Its a more street than drag car personally, I'd keep the powersteering.
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I'd stick with the power rack with a 85% street car.

I have a manual rack in my car right now but it has yet to see the street. The vendors say there is a decreased turning radius and if the car is stopped it's very difficult to turn the wheel. With a full size wheel this will be even worse.

Little word of advice, if you are going to go with a manual rack call madman and get his tie rod adapter pieces. They are a much better option then what they give you to install.

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Originally Posted by C Murda
if anyone with personal experience could put in some input that would be great...this will be for a 85% street driven car and 15% track car.

how is it driving on the street?
do you regret going to manual steering?
are there direct bolt in manual R&Ps?
how many turns from lock to lock?
any adhered problems from switching to manual?
Hello, if you decide to go with a manual rack setup we have a bolt in one that will work with your stock k member or an aftermarket one. The turn radius is 3.75 turns from lock to lock. Here is a link to the setup. Its a complete bolt in kit. If you have any questions give me a call.

http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F-bodyChassis.htm
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:37 AM
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I deleted my power steering with 275/40/17 in the front. Improved feel and control when driving, trying to parallel park is h*ll. I'd say go for it!
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What is the stock lock to lock specs?
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Can I ask a stupid question? And not to hijack the thread from the OP, but...

What's the point of deleting the power steering? I'd figure you'd want to keep it on anything still being driven on the street. I would hate to drive a car that was a bitch to turn and maneuver.
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less weight, 1 less load on the engine ( removes the pump)
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how much wieght and how much power is free'd up
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Originally Posted by ThoR294
less weight, 1 less load on the engine ( removes the pump)
Yeah, I understand both of those parts but I just can't see it really freeing up that much HP and it doesn't weight much. It just seems like something primarily for the hardcore guy trying to free up every last HP and cut every lb.
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If anyone is interested in our manual rack set-up, here is some information on it:
Our rack is a direct bolt-up application. There is one tab to weld on, and the tie-rod mounts on the spindle have to be drilled out to 5/8" for our bump-steer kit. They work for OEM rack and pinion mounts on factory or aftermarket k-members. Weight of the rack with the bumpsteer kit is 15.2#. Our kit has steering shaft applications for LT1 and LS1 cars. If anyone has any further questions, or would like to order, please call me at 225-673-3533
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So if you delete the power steering what belt # do you get?
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Originally Posted by 98RedBird
Yeah, I understand both of those parts but I just can't see it really freeing up that much HP and it doesn't weight much. It just seems like something primarily for the hardcore guy trying to free up every last HP and cut every lb.
aye. thats why i say keep it if its a street driven car!
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Originally Posted by philsblwnz28
So if you delete the power steering what belt # do you get?
our kit comes with the required belt. 345k6
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I would not do it on a street driven car. Don't take this the wrong way, but if you're running mid 13s, you're a long way off from the "every bit counts" weight reduction stage.

Manual racks, tubular K-members, tubular A-arms, etc. are for drag cars IMHO.
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I'm considering manual as well. My goals is 9.999sec in a 20+mpg car. Would it be money well spent to get to my goals? Could this mod be my "best" excuse to keep my girl friend and her daughter from driving the car? In comparison to steering when the power steering fails, is it easier to steer when stoped?
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Originally Posted by Casper9T9
I would not do it on a street driven car. Don't take this the wrong way, but if you're running mid 13s, you're a long way off from the "every bit counts" weight reduction stage.

Manual racks, tubular K-members, tubular A-arms, etc. are for drag cars IMHO.
This is the way I see it.
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I'm considering it simply to avoid leaking, shitty, annoying as hell power racks. Plus my car will be retired from DD duty soon so I don't see any reason why I can't handle the "hassle" of the manual steering now and again.
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Little word of advice to you and any one who goes to a manual rack.

I would not drill the spindles for a bump steer kit. I believe MADMAN has a setup that allows you to not to have to do that. I strongly advise not doing drilling them out.

I have pictures of how I got around doing that in another thread.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...-tie-rods.html

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