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Old May 8, 2016 | 08:20 AM
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I have a 1999 z28 Camaro. My friend has a 2000, same engine. He lowered his using ebay springs and replaced his shocks with stock ones from pepboys. It lowered perfect, not to lower at all.

So I did the same to mine. I got some $100 from ebay. Despite everone saying get the eibach springs because they are better, I got the ebay anyway cause my friends Camaro rides perfectly. Also got new stock shocks, New top strut tower mount (that part that has the bolts sticking out to bolt in the engine bay, and new rubber bushing for the not on top of the shock.

Ive never done this before but the installation seemed to go perfectly without any problems. But when I dropped the car on the ground this was my end result....

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The back seem to lower perfectly, my friend and I have the same 19 inch C5 corvette rims. Our backs are near same height. But my front went way lower. And no, its not cause of the front lower spoiler, my wheel to fender clearance is way lower than his.

Was there something I did to had made my car lower? only thing I can think of is the nut on top of the shock, did I thread that to low or does that not even matter? Second, it this to low? The car actually drives just fine, but I just cant determine if it looks good or does it look like some teenager messing up a respectable car (no offence to teens that do hook up their cars correctly.

Last, The thought of doing this all over again with different springs probably aint happening, I will gladly pay the $500 or so bucks for a shop to do this next time. But I was considering using these coil spring adjusters instead to raise it alittle....

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But do they good? Do they last? Im skeptical about quick fixes...

Everyone opinions will be seriously appreciated. Give me your thoughts guys, Thanks!!
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Old May 8, 2016 | 08:49 AM
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Too many variables to determine what went wrong. Start over, buy a proven combo, stick with your gut on "quick fixes", consider it lessons learned and move on.
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Old May 8, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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This is a perfect example of how the cheap becomes expensive. I always say, if you can not afford to do things correctly the first time, WAIT until the funds are available. Otherwise, you will spend more $$$ and kick yourself.
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Old May 8, 2016 | 03:53 PM
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...not sure I've ever heard anyone here actually recommend Eibach springs either...
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Old May 8, 2016 | 04:01 PM
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No one on this message board would reccomend eibach spring, they are garbage. they are so bad and the rear spring rates are so soft that I would rather have cut my factory springs. When I slam my trunk the rear springs hit the bump stop. I have the black color eibach pro kit springs

You went with ebay no name lowering springs, you get what you pay for. I would use nothing but BMR springs on a daily driver.
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Old May 8, 2016 | 04:27 PM
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Why pay a shop $500 for work that can be done in 2-3 hours with hand tools? Take the $500 buy some real springs and call it a day. Then remember that you had to do it twice before you buy some hack parts off of EBay again.
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Old May 8, 2016 | 05:05 PM
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I agree with everyone else that you get what you pay for. There's a reason that the springs are so much cheaper (low quality, weird spring rates), and i dont see the point in buying new stock shocks either, might as well reuse the ones you have if you can, the valving is **** when brand new anyway.
With that being said did you remember use the spring isolator on the front perch?
What about getting properly sized tires in the front and ditching the rubber bands you have now will raise it some too.
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Old May 8, 2016 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BandDirector Blk98ZM6
...not sure I've ever heard anyone here actually recommend Eibach springs either...
Oh,,,,, it's happened. Many times over unfortunately :-(
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Old May 8, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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Pics of the actual install would be helpful.

There's a reason eBay springs are so cheap, this is a perfect example why.
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Old May 8, 2016 | 10:22 PM
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My eibach Springs were the worst. And some how eBay Springs are even worse. You never want to use stock decarbon dampers with lowering springs. I would recommend bmr Springs, koni str.t stirs, Moog upper strut mount, Moog strut mount isolators, and Moog spring lower perch.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/1788699-how-front-str-t-assembly-w-ss-springs-moog-everything-else-finalized-6-5-15-a.html
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Old May 9, 2016 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by M4N14C
Pics of the actual install would be helpful.

There's a reason eBay springs are so cheap, this is a perfect example why.

Ebay springs aren't even that cheap to be honest, with companies like BMR and Sam strano testing all of their parts in the real world and being actual posting members on the board, $250 is a steal for a complete set of springs
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Old May 9, 2016 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by M4N14C
There's a reason eBay springs are so cheap, this is a perfect example why.

Yes, and even though so many on here swear by them, this same 'reason' makes me VERY wary of the ebay longtubes as well.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 12:45 PM
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Yes, and even though so many on here swear by them, this same 'reason' makes me VERY wary of the ebay longtubes as well.
Without naming the brand that I believe you're talking about I would say the biggest difference is that you don't see the company making these springs actively replying to questions on boards like this, or explaining why they did what they did. There is a big difference between a company who sets out to make a cheap product that works based on feedback from customers compared to an all foreign operation who has nothing but ebay feedback.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by chrysler kid
Ebay springs aren't even that cheap to be honest, with companies like BMR and Sam strano testing all of their parts in the real world and being actual posting members on the board, $250 is a steal for a complete set of springs
$250 for BMR SPRINGS!?!?!?!?!!? That's godam highway robbery!!! Who would spend money like that!?!?!?!? I have BMR springs, and they are good, but I would never pay $250 for them. As a matter of fact I would not pay 1 cent for them, mine were free. Yup, free. But I think I paid around $1,200 for shock absorbers. Springs came with the shocks as part of a package deal, lol.

All kidding aside, you get what you pay for. And yeah, BMR and Strano's are the proven way to go.

A saying I recently learned and love.....

Never enough time and money to do it right the first time, but always enough of both to fix it afterwards. I'm paraphrasing. Good luck.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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Guys,...
I actually have no complaints about the ride quality of the springs. Now I cannot compare since I never purchased any other type of Springs however I drove my car for a year on the stock Springs and now for about 2 weeks on these eBay Springs and they are absolutely fine. I do live in Florida so we are flat as a pancake here, so maybe that's why the Springs work so well for me however I don't bottom out and I don't feel any bouncing or any thing wrong with the ride quality of the vehicle. My only issue is why it went so low in the front and if I did anything to cause that.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dailydriver
Yes, and even though so many on here swear by them, this same 'reason' makes me VERY wary of the ebay longtubes as well.
You don't need to buy ebay headers to get a good set at a fair price.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...l#post19254514

And you can call em up and even talk to 'em just like real human like persons!
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Old May 9, 2016 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by excellegions
Guys,...
I actually have no complaints about the ride quality of the springs. Now I cannot compare since I never purchased any other type of Springs however I drove my car for a year on the stock Springs and now for about 2 weeks on these eBay Springs and they are absolutely fine. I do live in Florida so we are flat as a pancake here, so maybe that's why the Springs work so well for me however I don't bottom out and I don't feel any bouncing or any thing wrong with the ride quality of the vehicle. My only issue is why it went so low in the front and if I did anything to cause that.
Without more info on the install or even better, pictures, no one can really say. Since the job of switching that stuff out isn't really that hard I would guess that you did it right. My initial thought is that your issue is caused by terrible shocks/ struts with God knows what springs. That thing looks slammed in the front. Some guys are in to that look but I can't say I find it appealing. Best of luck and I hope you figure it out.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by excellegions
Guys,...
I actually have no complaints about the ride quality of the springs. Now I cannot compare since I never purchased any other type of Springs however I drove my car for a year on the stock Springs and now for about 2 weeks on these eBay Springs and they are absolutely fine. I do live in Florida so we are flat as a pancake here, so maybe that's why the Springs work so well for me however I don't bottom out and I don't feel any bouncing or any thing wrong with the ride quality of the vehicle. My only issue is why it went so low in the front and if I did anything to cause that.
That issue may very well be related to the quality of the spring though, if there is no QA for all we know the ones you got are 4 coils shorter than the ones your friend got. If you really want to get down to it, I'd get your friends car, pull a front assembly off of each one and measure.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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^^^^^I agree. When you're trying to figure out if your buddy's is longer than yours, the only way to find out is for you to both pull 'em on out and measure. And make sure he is measuring properly from the base.

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Old May 9, 2016 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherWs6
^^^^^I agree. When you're trying to figure out if your buddy's is longer than yours, the only way to find out is for you to both pull 'em on out and measure. And make sure he is measuring properly from the base.
Yes, wouldn't want anyone cheating now would we
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