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Old 08-16-2005, 02:57 AM
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In order to help other users decide on what brake components work best for them, ive decided that it would be a good idea for everyone to post up what parts or upgrades theyve done and how they like it.

Brake Manufacturer: (stock, or aftermarket company)
Caliper/Piston Number: (F-body, C5, aftermarket)
Rotor Manufacturer: (brembo, Baer, Stock)
Rotor Type: (Plain, Slotted, Drilled)
Rotor Dimensions: (Stock or Measurements)
Wheel/Tire Size:
Tire make/model:
Brake Line:
Brake Fluid:

Also include any other information that you feel would be helpful

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Front:

Brake Manufacturer: Stoptech
Caliper/Piston Number: ST-40 Gen II (dust seals included)
Rotor Manufacturer: Stoptech AeroRotor (included w/kit)
Rotor Type: Floating Blank (7075-T6 billet aluminum AeroHats with directional standoffs)
Rotor Dimensions: 332x32mm
Wheel/Tire Size: 275/40 ZR17 on 17x9.5" +54mm offset Z06 Wheels
Tire make/model: Kuhmo V710 for track car (Previously Nitto NT-555 R2 Extreme), BFG g-force KDWS for street.
Brake Line: StopTech SS (DOT compliant) front brake lines
Brake Fluid: Motul DOT 5.1 (street), Motul RBF 600 (track)
Brake Pads: Pagid 4-2-1 Blue (Street car), Pagid RS 4-4 Orange (Track car).

Rear:

Brake Manufacturer: PBR
Caliper/Piston Number: OEM replacement
Rotor Manufacturer: Brembo
Rotor Type: Blank
Rotor Dimensions: OEM
Wheel/Tire Size: 275/40 ZR17 on 17x9.5" +54mm offset Z06 Wheels
Tire make/model: Kuhmo V710 for track car (Previously Nitto NT-555 R2 Extreme), BFG g-force KDWS for street.
Brake Line: StopTech SS (DOT compliant) rear brake lines
Brake Fluid: Motul DOT 5.1 (street), Motul RBF 600 (track)
Brake Pads: Axxis metal master rear brake pads (street car), Hawk Blue 9012 (track car)

Basically this is what I have installed. While my choice of brake pads do dust quite frequently, they're quiet and perform well for the money. My pedal went from OEM stiffness, to a markedly improved stiffness, but only really perceptible when braking from >80MPH.

This modification was after I had made sure that my OEM setup was enhanced to it's utmost capability of what I needed them to do (Brembo blanks, Hawk HP+, and Earl's stainless steel lines with stock sliding calipers). If you just want to enhance your "street legal" capabilities, then the items listed in the parentheses will be more than adequate.

They're also a nice company to purchase from. Regardless of a customer's expertise, they're very helpful as they attempt to ensure quality of product, sale, and service.

EDIT: I also have this same setup on my other, much more dedicated track car with exception of their pads used.
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Purchased from Wholesale Direct Parts

Caliper/Piston Number: F-body Rebuilt
Rotor Manufacturer: Bendix
Rotor Type: Slotted, Drilled w/ Zinc Coating
Rotor Dimensions: Stock i believe minor difference if any
Wheel/Tire Size: 17x9 Stock w/ 275/40/17
Tire make/model: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS vs. BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW
Brake Line: Stock
Brake Fluid: DOT3

Originally my brakes chattered and shook my car from high speed stops. This was the reason i went w/ new brakes and i decided to go w/ a rebuild on the calipers just incase.

Stopped approx 15-20 ft difference from 60-0

Approx 20-30 ft difference w/ the new tires installed on there. Nop chatter at all once the brakes were done.

Excellent product would recommend to all! you can't be it for the money
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Purchased from Wholesale Direct Parts

Caliper/Piston Number: F-body Rebuilt
Rotor Manufacturer: Bendix
Rotor Type: Slotted, Drilled w/ Zinc Coating
Rotor Dimensions: Stock i believe minor difference if any
Wheel/Tire Size: 17x9 Stock w/ 275/40/17
Tire make/model: Goodyear Eagle F1 GS vs. BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KDW
Brake Line: Stock
Brake Fluid: DOT3

Originally my brakes chattered and shook my car from high speed stops. This was the reason i went w/ new brakes and i decided to go w/ a rebuild on the calipers just incase.

Stopped approx 15-20 ft difference from 60-0

Approx 20-30 ft difference w/ the new tires installed on there. Nop chatter at all once the brakes were done.

Excellent product would recommend to all! you can't be it for the money
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Brake Manufacturer: stock
Caliper/Piston Number: F-body
Rotor Manufacturer: Stock
Rotor Type: Slotted, Drilled
Rotor Dimensions: Stock
Wheel/Tire Size: 16x8 wheels 245/50-16 tires
Tire make/model: Michelin Pilot Sport A/S
Brake Line: stock
Brake Fluid: ATE Super Blue

I was happy with the wear characteristics of the pads considering the slotted/cross drilled rotors. Stopping power unimpressive. Brake rumble due to irregular rotor surface.

Noise: Low
Dusting: Low to Moderate

No detectable warping experienced.
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Brake Manufacturer: Baer Racing
Caliper/Piston Number: Alcon B-Type Four Piston
Rotor Manufacturer: Baer Racing
Rotor Type: Reverse Drilled/Reverse Slotted Directional Curved Vane
Rotor Dimensions: 13.5"x1.25"
Wheel/Tire Size: C6 Motorsport 18"x10.5" 275/35YR18
Tire make/model: Dunlop SP Sport 01 DSST
Brake Line: Baer Racing Braided Stainless Steel
Brake Fluid: Castrol SRF
Brake Pads: SBS Pro-Touring, Hawk Blue (Track)

My front system. The rears are stock at the moment, while I save money for a four-piston rear setup. I personally do not like or recommend drilled and/or slotted rotors, since they are prone to cracking and also wear pads out a lot faster than blanks. The ones I have were included in the system (I love ebay) so I'm using them until I decide whether or not I want to upgrade the front to a six-piston or just replace the discs. The stock system came off the car about a half-hour after I got home from the dealership and this went on. It's the single best upgrade I've done so far. The pedal feel is much better compared to stock, I'm able to haul the car down from high speeds very quickly, and there's no brake fade at all. Brake pad selection is great, but replacement rotors are quite expensive. All in all I'm very happy with it.
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Brake Manufacturer: Precision Brakes Company front/stock rear
Caliper/Piston Number: 6 piston Wilwood with theromlock heat shields/Stock F-body
Rotor Manufacturer: C4HD blanks/stock diameter rears
Rotor Type: Blank/blank
Rotor Dimensions: 13.1/12
Wheel/Tire Size: 17x9 wheels 275/40-17 tires or 17x11's with 315/35-17 Hoosiers for autocross use
Tire make/model: Fuzion ZRi/Hoosier A3SO4's
Brake Line: Braided front/stock rear
Brake Fluid: ATE Super Blue
Pads: Several, currently Carbotech XP1108's/Panther plus rear

I've run a few different pads on this combination and the car has always stopped amazingly well. With the Hawk HP+ I was turning the front brake rotors purple on the outer edges and fading to a nice orange center during autocross events. With the Carbotechs, I'm doing about the same thing. Even with the heat, the brakes are amazing. The pedal stays firm and the car just stops. On race tires, I'm doing 70-0 in not much more than 100 feet at the end of our course (after the timers). I can do that because of the giant Hoosiers and the capabilities of these brakes. This is much shorter than anything you'll find in a magazine on street tires (you need grip and brakes to pull off numbers like that) with stock brakes. The car is quite easy to control, even under hard braking and it seems like these brakes could stop a train (or at least most of the traffic behind me during rush hour ). My co driver for this years autocross events has proclaimed these to be the most amazing brakes he's ever used in competition or otherwise. Nothing in his many years of driving and playing with fast cars has come close.

Noise: Some light squeaking, but that depends on pad compound. Racing pads make noise, I can't blame the brakes for my choice of pads.

Dusting: Depends again on compound and driving. Racing on race pads makes tons of dust, but I knew that when I ordered those pads and when I decided to beat them to death in a competitive environment.

I'd buy them again.
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Just did this and it made a huge difference in braking!
Brake Manufacturer: Baer Racing/ GMPP(Front and rear)
Caliper/Piston Number: Z06 Calipers (front 2 piston, rear 1 piston)
Rotor Manufacturer: Baer Eradispeeds (front+1 and rear)
Rotor Type: Slotted and Drilled
Rotor Dimensions: 12"
Wheel/Tire Size: Stock WS6/ 17x9
Tire make/model: Sumitomo HTRZII 275/40/ZR17
Brake Line: Earls Stainless Steel(front and rear)
Brake Fluid:GM
Brake Pad: Hawk (front and rear)
here is a pic of the front I think it looks great!

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Front:

Brake Manufacturer: AP Racing
Caliper/Piston Number: CP5555, differential bore six-piston
Rotor Manufacturer: AP Racing
Rotor Type: Slotted 2 pc, McLaren floaters
Rotor Dimensions: 355mm x 35.5mm (14 x 1.4")
Wheel/Tire Size: 18x9.5 265/40/18
Tire make/model: BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD
Brake Line: Stainless 3/16" hardline, Goodridge SS Flex lines
Brake Fluid: Motul RBF 600
Pad type/compound: Ferodo 2500
Master size: 7/8"
Weight: 33.5 lbs
Combined left and right: 67 lbs



Rear:

Brake Manufacturer: AP Racing
Caliper/Piston Number: CP5147, four-piston
Rotor Manufacturer: AP Racing
Rotor Type: Slotted 2 pc, **NEW** Steel hat, factory e-brake compatible
Rotor Dimensions: 330mm x 25.5mm (13 x 1")
Wheel/Tire Size: 18x9.5 275/40/18
Tire make/model: BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD
Brake Line: Stainless 3/16" hard line, Goodridge SS Flex lines
Brake Fluid: Motul RBF 600
Pad type/compound: Pagid RS421
Master size: 1"
Weight: 27.5 lbs
Combined left and right: 55 lbs



This is the Holy Grail of brake systems.

I have installed and used various systems from every manufacturer..... (Alcon, AP Racing, Brembo, CNC, PBR, Perf Fric, JFZ, Stoptech and Wilwood) which also goes for pad/compounds (Axxis, Carbotech, Ferodo, Hawk, Pagid, Perf Fric, Porterfield, Poly Matrix, Raybestos and Mintex). The modulation, fade resistance, predictability and shear stopping power of these independant systems is nothing short of phenomenal.

Think.... 60-0 in under 90 feet.

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I am looking at upgrading my brakes mainly for appearance for that show car bling bling thing. I would like to keep the stock calipers and like the looks of the 2-piece front rotors like Baer Eradispeed Plus. Whats the best looking setup out there that is somewhat inexpensive. Anybody?
Forgot to mention-I have a 2002 Firehawk Trans Am with very low mileage.
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Brake Manufacturer: Stainless Steel Brake Company
Caliper/Piston Number: 3 piston Front w/ relocation brackets, stock calipers on rear
Rotor Manufacturer: Stainless Steel Brake Company
Rotor Type: F-Body
Rotor Dimensions: 13-inch front, slotted, 11-inch rear, slotted
Wheel/Tire Size: 17x9 wheels 275/40-17 tires
Tire make/model: Goodyear
Brake Line: Ed's stainless brake lines
Brake Fluid: DOT 5
Pads: Stainless Steel Brake Company

Pertty good brakes. WAY better than stock. Avoid cross-drilled rotors like the plague if you road race. They'll crack every time between the holes and you'll have to buy new ones.
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I used hawk pads from www.thunderracing.com ..OMG, I went from using stock pads to these and I got the biggest smile on my face I recommend highly!!

Caliper/Piston Number: F-body Stock
Rotor Manufacturer: AutoZone( Will upgrade next)
Rotor Type: Stock
Rotor Dimensions: Stock
Wheel/Tire Size: 18x9.5 (275/35/18)
Tire make/model: Vredstien(Made in Holland) 275/35/18 Awesome Tire!!
Brake Line: Stock
Brake Fluid: DOT3
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Thanks! I'll try them next!
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Brake Manufacturer: stock
Caliper/Piston Number: F-body
Rotor Manufacturer: iRotors
Rotor Type: Slotted, Drilled
Rotor Dimensions: Stock
Wheel/Tire Size: 17x9.5 17x11
Brake Line: Stock
Brake Fluid: Stock
Brake Pads: Hawk HPS

I've had this setup and completly stock. This is far better than stock. Braking is much more crisp and no fade. These rotors look nice. Not sure how much they serve as far as function. Hawk pads are sweet, need I say more.
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Brake Manufacturer: Stock
Caliper/Piston Number: F-body
Rotor Manufacturer: Baer
Rotor Type Front: Eradispeed 2-piece 12", Slotted, Drilled
Rotor Type Rear: Eradispeed 1-piece 12", Slotted, Drilled
Pads: Hawk HPS
Rotor Dimensions: 12"
Wheel/Tire Size Front: 275/40/17
Wheel/Tire Size Rear: 315/35/17
Tire make/model: BFG G-Force KD

Performance of this combo is substantially better than stock. I still wish for more brake power at the end of a track pass though. Pads throw no dust at all. Would be nice to go to steel braided lines in the future. Also I'd love to upgrade the calipers but that's major major $. The pads & rotor upgrades I did are a pretty economical way to upgrade your stock brakes IMO...It's about $790 for the full set-up at Tbyrne.

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In my opinion, I suggest the Wilwood SL-6 front brake pkg. I have slotted zinc washed 13.06 inch rotors and the calipers are 6 piston. Using the polymatrix Q pad, virtually no dust. Stainless steel lines, front and back. Increased stopping power and feel at the pedal were noticed immediately. Also have the functional ZO6 rear brake ducts to keep the back cool. Also had to use 1/2 inch of spacers to make the 17" front wheels usable. Anyone with 18" wheels could've used 14 inch rotors. Best example of there power is "some loser drifts in front of me, and I am doing 140 or so, and he keeps drifting, I press the brakes lightly, down shift, and stand on them. I was down to 55 mph before I realized it, and my passenger is pulling his face off the dash.
LOL !!!! Last comment, most bang for the buck. There are way better pkgs out there but is a couple grand worth a couple feet? JMO.............................
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One more quick comment. It is silly not to upgrade to stainless lines at all 4 corners if you are doing any brake upgrading. The steel lines alone give you so much more feel. When you slam the brakes those rubber hoses bulge and give away some of the feel and pressure. Definately get the stainless steel lines to fully feel what your new system will do. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
There are way better pkgs out there but is a couple grand worth a couple feet?
Gee. I dont know. Do ya think 30 feet is worth saving you and anyone else from injury...... or maybe having to replace an entire car ??
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Brake manufacturer: Baer
Caliper: Extreme+ 6 piston
Rotor: Baer
Rotor type: Drilled/slotted
Rotor dimensions: 14 inch
Wheel/tire: 18x9.5 HRE/Pirelli P Zero
Brake line: SS provided with kit
Brake Fluid: DOT 3

These replaced the stock calipers that were going out. Never tested any other aftermarket calipers for comparison, but these brakes work extremely well. Worlds better than the stockers. After I broke in the pads/rotors per instructions, I went in a good area for testing. Went up to 140mph and slammed the brakes. Stopped so quick it almost scared me, I was waiting something on the car to break or for the tires to break loose. The car simply stopped on a dime. Then I did two back to back stops, one from about 120, floored it back to 100mph and slammed the pedal again. No fade at all. The pads are quiet, not a squeek. Besides the engine, this is the best mod I have done. One complaint about rotors that are drilled is that they will crack. But on these rotors, the holes are not drilled, they are molded in. So hopefully they will last. Only drawback is alot of brakedust, but that was expected. That, and I cannot run any wheel smaller than 18 inches. Overall, they are outstanding street brakes. It's hard to understand what high performance brakes like these really feel like until you try them.
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Originally Posted by 11 Bravo
But on these rotors, the holes are not drilled, they are molded in.
Uhm.... yeah. That has been covered.


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