those with sfc's, did they help stop any squeaks and rattles?
11-18-2005, 05:25 PM
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those with sfc's, did they help stop any squeaks and rattles? Im so sick of these rattle traps! Ive owned 1 3rd gen and two 4th gen. If i could afford something better like a vette or a gto I would. Im stuck with this for a while. The bad thing is I dont race my cars. I just enjoy the feel of a sports car. My current is a 99 t/a Ive had for 4 years. The main strip of road I drive everyday is horrible and badly needs repaving. But the least little bump in the road and the thing soundds like its falling apart.
any suggestions in stopping the rattles?
thanks!
any suggestions in stopping the rattles?
thanks!
11-18-2005, 10:43 PM
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Subframe connecter and strut tower brace are a must on these cars.
I got the strut tower brace first then the subframe connecters and each one made a great difference. I recommend both and add one at a time so you can see how much off a difference they make. If not then go ahead and put on both at the same time and you won't belive how better you car handles and the feed back at the steerring wheel. They are a must have.....and yes, they did help on the squeeks and rattles.
I got the strut tower brace first then the subframe connecters and each one made a great difference. I recommend both and add one at a time so you can see how much off a difference they make. If not then go ahead and put on both at the same time and you won't belive how better you car handles and the feed back at the steerring wheel. They are a must have.....and yes, they did help on the squeeks and rattles.
11-20-2005, 12:48 PM
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Mine is still doing pretty good @ 136K miles.
I put the SFCs and STB on fairly early, though.
Now if I could keep the
exhaust from
rattling down my driveway.....
I put the SFCs and STB on fairly early, though.
Now if I could keep the
exhaust from rattling down my driveway.....
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11-23-2005, 01:52 AM
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I'm with everyone, SFC's & a STB are a must on our cars. You wouldn't believe the rattles they cut down on, and you probably won't really even notice the difference the day you get them installed.
11-23-2005, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by redsscamaroboy
I agree,followed closely by a Strut tower brace.
11-23-2005, 04:12 PM
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Depending on how old your vehicle is and what it has been through, try to check your shocks. If you've replaced your shocks with higher quality ones (bilstein or Koni's), then check all of your mounts and bushings, then replace as needed. Once you've gone over those two, then check your interior items and see if they're bolted down/fastened correctly.
SFC's can only improve chassis stiffness, and the ones that will really benefit from it are the convertibles, not hard tops, and not most T-tops (I know since I have T-top, and it doesn't rattle).
If you're adding a STB for turn-in stability and notice an improvement while still equipped with stock sway bars, then your problem lies with the sway bars. Just an improvement with sway bar diameter is good enough because STB's are only useful with front strut mounted systems, not the 4th gen SLA system.
SFC's can only improve chassis stiffness, and the ones that will really benefit from it are the convertibles, not hard tops, and not most T-tops (I know since I have T-top, and it doesn't rattle).
If you're adding a STB for turn-in stability and notice an improvement while still equipped with stock sway bars, then your problem lies with the sway bars. Just an improvement with sway bar diameter is good enough because STB's are only useful with front strut mounted systems, not the 4th gen SLA system.
11-23-2005, 07:13 PM
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sfc are a must no matter what the mileage of the car, yes there are other things that can make noises, but overall they are one of the best investments for a f-body.
11-24-2005, 02:25 AM
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Sorry guys, I just don't buy that.
My 99 Z28 is about 120K now, has been thrashed on the track, has 650 front/225 rear spring rates with properly valved shocks, and has approximately 400 rwhp. Not to mention, that I run some sticky shoes. I've had two and three point SFC's, both welded on and cut off at several mileage intervals. No difference in NVH from installing them and removing them.
As far as a 3rd gen, yes, they do need both SFC's and STB's, but the 4th Gen chassis is a lot stronger than the consensus thinks. At least two of the experienced AXer's on this board can agree with what I mention, not because they think so, but from their experience.
My 99 Z28 is about 120K now, has been thrashed on the track, has 650 front/225 rear spring rates with properly valved shocks, and has approximately 400 rwhp. Not to mention, that I run some sticky shoes. I've had two and three point SFC's, both welded on and cut off at several mileage intervals. No difference in NVH from installing them and removing them.
As far as a 3rd gen, yes, they do need both SFC's and STB's, but the 4th Gen chassis is a lot stronger than the consensus thinks. At least two of the experienced AXer's on this board can agree with what I mention, not because they think so, but from their experience.
11-24-2005, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Foxxton
Sorry guys, I just don't buy that.
My 99 Z28 is about 120K now, has been thrashed on the track, has 650 front/225 rear spring rates with properly valved shocks, and has approximately 400 rwhp. Not to mention, that I run some sticky shoes. I've had two and three point SFC's, both welded on and cut off at several mileage intervals. No difference in NVH from installing them and removing them.
As far as a 3rd gen, yes, they do need both SFC's and STB's, but the 4th Gen chassis is a lot stronger than the consensus thinks. At least two of the experienced AXer's on this board can agree with what I mention, not because they think so, but from their experience.
My 99 Z28 is about 120K now, has been thrashed on the track, has 650 front/225 rear spring rates with properly valved shocks, and has approximately 400 rwhp. Not to mention, that I run some sticky shoes. I've had two and three point SFC's, both welded on and cut off at several mileage intervals. No difference in NVH from installing them and removing them.
As far as a 3rd gen, yes, they do need both SFC's and STB's, but the 4th Gen chassis is a lot stronger than the consensus thinks. At least two of the experienced AXer's on this board can agree with what I mention, not because they think so, but from their experience.
11-24-2005, 07:42 PM
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I'm basically with Foxxton and CamdLS1. My SFC's did noticeably stiffen the chassis and cut down on body flex in hard cornering. But they also caused increased transmission of road irregularities into the cabin - a harsher ride. Rattles are about the same - although I haven't noticed the dreaded intermittent A4 console tapping since I installed them. Hmmmm ...
11-25-2005, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Foxxton
Sorry guys, I just don't buy that.
As far as a 3rd gen, yes, they do need both SFC's and STB's, but the 4th Gen chassis is a lot stronger than the consensus thinks. At least two of the experienced AXer's on this board can agree with what I mention, not because they think so, but from their experience.
As far as a 3rd gen, yes, they do need both SFC's and STB's, but the 4th Gen chassis is a lot stronger than the consensus thinks. At least two of the experienced AXer's on this board can agree with what I mention, not because they think so, but from their experience.
I'll just add this: 4th gen fbodys were designed from the start to be convertables, so if you don't have a convertable, the chassis is overbuilt to start with.
Search button guys. This has been covered as many times as "what cam should I buy."
11-25-2005, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Cal
Foxxton, I've typed that so many times I'm ready to give up and just let them bolt more dead weight onto their cars. After all, the added business does stimulate the economy!
I'll just add this: 4th gen fbodys were designed from the start to be convertables, so if you don't have a convertable, the chassis is overbuilt to start with.
Search button guys. This has been covered as many times as "what cam should I buy."
I'll just add this: 4th gen fbodys were designed from the start to be convertables, so if you don't have a convertable, the chassis is overbuilt to start with.
Search button guys. This has been covered as many times as "what cam should I buy."
I guess I should spend more time at that "other forum board " owned and operated by that "other" expert LS1Tech.com member.
Their members at least have a better meaning of the word "search."
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I know when I put the subrames on my T/A it tightend it up alot. It cut the rattles down a little bit, but I slapped them on with over 70K miles on the clock. When I put the strut tower brace on I noticed a big steering response and could take turns faster with it install. It just felt better. I have over 102,000 miles on it now and I still love the STB and subframes.