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Old 02-09-2003 | 11:48 AM
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Do any springs exist that will lower the car LESS THAN 1 inch? I know you may be thinking why would you do that but, I have the sport appearance package on my Z28 and I just want to lower it a tiny bit because I don't want it to scrape at all. I don't know if it's worth trying.
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The lowest off the shelf springs that ive seen are 1 inch. If you want anything else your gona need coil overs.
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or you can cut a couple of inches off your stock springs.
Old 02-09-2003 | 07:19 PM
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Thanks, and what is are coil overs? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" />
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I've been looking into the same thing myself, since my car also has the Sport Appearance package and I also don't want too much of a drop.
The BMR and Hotchkis springs lower the car 1". The BMRs are only available in Red powdercoat, and the Hotchkis are dark grey.
Eibach Pro Kit and G2 (Granatelli) springs will lower the car 1.25". I've heard alot of people having sagging problems on the rears with the Eibachs.

So... after all of that I'm probably gonna get me the Hotchkis springs... I would prefer the BMRs, but I don't want red.
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You said you don't like red, but you won't be able to see them, right?
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MJMZ28Cvt:
<strong> Thanks, and what is are coil overs? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Coil-overs are shocks that have a spring on them that can adjust the ride height. It has a screw type piece that moves up and down that the springs sits on. so when u raise it, it raises the car. and the same thing for lowering it. its basically like a nut and a bolt, and the spring sits on the nut and u can move it to whatever height u want. ohh yeah i forgot to mention, they can have a really ruff ride, thats why u dont see a lot of people with them

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MJMZ28Cvt:
<strong> You said you don't like red, but you won't be able to see them, right? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ya know, you got a point there! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MJMZ28Cvt:
<strong> You said you don't like red, but you won't be able to see them, right? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">if the color is a big deal, you could always have them re-powdercoated to whatever you wanted....get what works....color can be taken care of later <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />


</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MJMZ28Cvt:
<strong> Thanks, and what is are coil overs? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">go to LG motorsports site.....under there suspention page at the bottom they have coil overs. Coilovers are the ultimate setup if you can get them for your needs and in your price range. They alow precise ride height adjustment (just takes time) and the shocks and springs can be matched exactly to oneanother resulting in a much better performing suspention.

I personally have the G2 Coilovers (have heard they are the best there is....I know I love them). A lot of people seem to be going with the ground controle setup for price reasons (seem to work so they must a good design).

Z-Rated said that coilover tend to be stiff. Its not the fact that you have a "coilover" that makes it stiff, its all dependant on the valveing of the shock and the spring rate that is used. My G2s are really stiff but they are designed to handle at high speeds (which they do REALLY well <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> ). If you were to get with LG or Sam Strano (hope I spelled his name right <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> ), they could probubly set it up with a milder setup that would ride as well if not better than the tipical aftermarket spring and shock setup people use (it would be custome made to YOUR needs). I know that when I ordered my G2 coilovers, I had to wate a month while they built my set (they are built per order).

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thanks for the info! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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You can check out SLP's springs. They are supposed to lower the car about 3/4''. However I do believe that some people have been less than pleased with the front springs from SLP. Sometimes they only lower the car like a 1/4'', but I think that is about the only option you have for less than an inch for just springs.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MJMZ28Cvt:
<strong> Do any springs exist that will lower the car LESS THAN 1 inch? I know you may be thinking why would you do that but, I have the sport appearance package on my Z28 and I just want to lower it a tiny bit because I don't want it to scrape at all. I don't know if it's worth trying. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LG Motorsports G2 Super Springs, then have spacers made, it's cheap and easy. I'm gonna have 2 spacers made for my rears so the rear go's up about a 1/2 inch.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ClassicCollector:
<strong> You can check out SLP's springs. They are supposed to lower the car about 3/4''. However I do believe that some people have been less than pleased with the front springs from SLP. Sometimes they only lower the car like a 1/4'', but I think that is about the only option you have for less than an inch for just springs. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, the SLP Eibachs....
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...&SHOWEMAIL=Off
....are supposed to lower the car approx. 3/4" only.
Probably a decent compromise spring for handling, appearance and ride quality.
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I have the Ground Controls for my car. You can order them with whatever spring rate you want, so they don't have to be rough.
Another option is to get Koni shocks for the front. They have two spring mounts. One is the stock height and one .75" lower. Then you can run the stock springs. In the rear you can remove the top spacer and replace it with heater hose around the top coil of the stock spring.

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I may be and probably am wrong here, but I thought that coil overs are the setup that we have stock. They are not leaf springs and the spring is over the shock which gives it the name coil over. The adjustable part is just and adjustable shock but has nothing to do with the name coil over.

Like I said, I may be wrong, but this is the way I always understood it.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by joshs2000ss:
<strong> I may be and probably am wrong here, but I thought that coil overs are the setup that we have stock. They are not leaf springs and the spring is over the shock which gives it the name coil over. The adjustable part is just and adjustable shock but has nothing to do with the name coil over.

Like I said, I may be wrong, but this is the way I always understood it. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don’t feel bad.. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> ....this comes up now and then and on the surface you would be right. The truth is the factory setup is a "strut". The difference is that a coil-overs are self contained. The spring does not contact the vehicle body at all. While the front shock/spring in an F-bodie come out as a unit, they are both attached to a mount that is then attached to the body.

<img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> MUSTANGS have "MacPhereson struts" which do away with the upper a-arm.

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Don't give the MacPhereson struts too much of a hard time....3rd gen F-bodies had them and though not optimum, they could be made to handle amazingly well.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by trackbird:
<strong> Don't give the MacPhereson struts too much of a hard time....3rd gen F-bodies had them and though not optimum, they could be made to handle amazingly well. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">oh they work.....as you said they are just not optimum for handling. I have been told they have really poor camber retention in turns.

The <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> was for mustangs.....

There is only 1 good mustang and thats a red 1966, 289 cope with a 4 speed...(one of the MANY MANY cars I want)..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />

Well on second thought, there are 2 good mustangs, the other is a DEAD mustang <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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