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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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I took the SS out this past Sunday and "stretched her legs" as she has been in the garage for two weeks.

I took her out for a short time, just enough to get side-ways and slam through the gears. (I grinned) Happy with the ride I parked her for a bout an hour. When I got back in to head over to a friends house to watch Ultimate Factories Camaro/Corvette, she would not start.

I checked the battery, fuses & blinker light fluid. All seemed ok. I tried once more:

Dash lights up, good voltage, fuel reading good, hear the fuel pump prime - pushed down on the clutch then turn the ignition... nothing.

No ticking, chattering. Nothing.

As if I were to turn the key without pushing in the clutch <--- that is what I got. no turnover.

I read abit about VATS so I tried both keys - one key fob has not been used so I thought that would work for sure but no luck.

Tech budd's help out!

I wanted to take her to the Coffee 'n Cars this weekend.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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I had the exact same problem on my 1998 Z-28, check to see if your clutch switch fell out of its holder (Its located on the bracket attached to your clutch pedal, it completes the circuit to engage the stater). Also try pushing in your pedal all the way then lifting up the pedal about 1/2 in then try it, it did that from day one on my car.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Does the security light on your gauge panel stay on. If so It could be the Body control mod acting up. Try putting the key in turn to on position and let it set there for a minute or so, then try to start the car. I had this happen a few weeks ago. If that doesn't work it could be a bad BCM or the key and switch could be bad. Hope this helps.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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the car should crank with the security light on it only disables the ecu. try to aply 12v at the purple wire in the passenger side fender in the engine bay, its a one wire connector, make sure its in neutral. if it cranks then its a bad neutral switch or ignition switch, if it doesnt crank its the starter.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by topspeed7
the car should crank with the security light on it only disables the ecu. try to aply 12v at the purple wire in the passenger side fender in the engine bay, its a one wire connector, make sure its in neutral. if it cranks then its a bad neutral switch or ignition switch, if it doesnt crank its the starter.
Mine had the security light on and would not crank. I talked to a tech at a dealer and he told me about leaving the key on for a minute or so. I did this and it started right up.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JetBlack98Z
I had the exact same problem on my 1998 Z-28, check to see if your clutch switch fell out of its holder (Its located on the bracket attached to your clutch pedal, it completes the circuit to engage the stater). Also try pushing in your pedal all the way then lifting up the pedal about 1/2 in then try it, it did that from day one on my car.
try this^

have you done anything recently with your clutch hydraulic system? my car did the exact same thing and it was that little plastic switch. keeps the car from engaging cruise control too if the car is already started.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LS1Aggie09
try this^

have you done anything recently with your clutch hydraulic system? my car did the exact same thing and it was that little plastic switch. keeps the car from engaging cruise control too if the car is already started.
A while back, almost a year ago though. I will try this also.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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Unplug your battery, and then plug it back in. Also check your relays. (in the fusebox)

GM electronics are infamous for being buggy like this.
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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It is the optispark
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Old Jan 4, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
It is the optispark
Must be that damn flux-capacitor again
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TruBloodTransAm
Must be that damn flux-capacitor again
lol!

nope. I crossed the wires to mimic a double-helix to reduce the noise on the Flux-capacitor, so it's not that... I did notice the blinker fluid was a bit low...

I will troubleshoot Friday morning.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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Codes?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:14 AM
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10 bucks on starter relay!
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:47 AM
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does it have gas?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by LS1vazquez
Unplug your battery, and then plug it back in. Also check your relays. (in the fusebox)

GM electronics are infamous for being buggy like this.
Did this = no

Originally Posted by JetBlack98Z
I had the exact same problem on my 1998 Z-28, check to see if your clutch switch fell out of its holder (Its located on the bracket attached to your clutch pedal, it completes the circuit to engage the stater). Also try pushing in your pedal all the way then lifting up the pedal about 1/2 in then try it, it did that from day one on my car.
Tried this also. nothing looks out of place. maybe it is the clutch switch

Originally Posted by topspeed7
the car should crank with the security light on it only disables the ecu. try to aply 12v at the purple wire in the passenger side fender in the engine bay, its a one wire connector, make sure its in neutral. if it cranks then its a bad neutral switch or ignition switch, if it doesnt crank its the starter.
cant do this unless I remove my wheel and fender guard... I did the wire mod...
Ill have to try this last

Originally Posted by brian_rs/ss
does it have gas?
yes. 3/4 tank
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 12:58 PM
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its that ipod mod lol
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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So, did u check the relay?
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by txh0tb0i972
its that ipod mod lol
lol...ill do that right now...

Originally Posted by Pwebbz28
So, did u check the relay?
how can I check the relay? - sorry, I did pull the relays under the hood and checked the fuses that pertain to starter and ignition.. They don't look burned out.

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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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put the key in the ignition, turn it on and off 3 times, pump the gas peddle 3 times, pump the clutch peddle 3 times, jiggle the shifter, hold your breath and try again.
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Old Jan 7, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by brian_rs/ss
put the key in the ignition, turn it on and off 3 times, pump the gas peddle 3 times, pump the clutch peddle 3 times, jiggle the shifter, hold your breath and try again.
You forgot to mention- I should also click my heels 3 times.
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