My solution to diesel prices, you may think I'm crazy!
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My solution to diesel prices, you may think I'm crazy!
I drive my 07 dodge daily and I'm sure all you other diesel guys out there know what that liquid gold is going for now.
Well they don't call diesels oil burners for no reason... Right now I have a 50-50 mix of diesel and 15-40 motor oil in my tank. Thats right, motor oil. It runs great on it too.
Any one else ever tried it? Thought about trying it? My deal is I can get the oil dirt cheap, others are using waist engine oil that I guess some places will give away.
People have been doing this for ever, I just thought I would bring it up as an alternative to diesel prices.
Well they don't call diesels oil burners for no reason... Right now I have a 50-50 mix of diesel and 15-40 motor oil in my tank. Thats right, motor oil. It runs great on it too.
Any one else ever tried it? Thought about trying it? My deal is I can get the oil dirt cheap, others are using waist engine oil that I guess some places will give away.
People have been doing this for ever, I just thought I would bring it up as an alternative to diesel prices.
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In the beginning diesel's were developed to run on cheap fuel....lightly refined crude oil (compared to gasoline) will it run like that....sure...how well? depends...Ive seen it done.
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Diesel's will as a rule run on most things that will ignite via compression. There can be long term side affects such as coking of pistons and injectors. But this is very dependent apon the engine and fuel in question.
Many people run on vegetable cooking oil (SVO) or waste veg oil. Bio-diesel is another option.
So what are the prices of diesel in the States at present?????
Guess they are way better than here in the UK!!!
Diesel = £1.20 per litre. That's $8.85 gallon (US gallon!!!)
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I've read (on teh interweb of course) that some states are starting to go after people running alternative 'free-ish' fuels in their vehicles, because it avoids the road taxes. If you are running an alternative fuel on public roads, you're "supposed" to send in road tax money. Much like red / farm diesel is not supposed to be run on the roads.
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I have a buddy that runs 50/50 with trans fluid in a 12v dodge. I don't know if 07 Dodges have the paticulate filters or not, but I know that burning oil will clog it alot faster, and will not be covered under warranty if it can't be uncloged with regeneration process. We replaced one in a duramax and I think it was about $2000 bucks. Just be carefull with alternative fuels and your warranty.
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No my 07 does not have the diesel particulate filter (dpf) as mine is a 5.9, the dpf's are on the 6.7 trucks.
As stated above diesels are compression ignition engines and because of this they can run on many different fuels. They also burn very hot and very clean, I noticed very little increase in smoke.
As far as how the engine compensates for the fuel mix, it doesn't. It doesn't know the difference. Diesel engines are a completely different world from gasoline engines as far everything but the 4 stroke internal cumbustion design. There is a huge wide range of acceptable air fuel ratios with a diesel compared to a gas engine.
I know of coking issues with cooking oil because it needs to be at a certain temp to go through the fuel system, especially a high pressure common rail like mine.
There are systems on large stationary equipment that will actually drain a certain amount of oil from the pan to the fuel tank to be burned, and then fresh oil is added to replace it. No it's not 50%, more like 5%.
As far as the price of the oil, you have to find a deal on bulk oil to get it at a cost benificial price. But there are many people out there running waist engine oil in theirs. Some places pay to have that taken away.
As stated above diesels are compression ignition engines and because of this they can run on many different fuels. They also burn very hot and very clean, I noticed very little increase in smoke.
As far as how the engine compensates for the fuel mix, it doesn't. It doesn't know the difference. Diesel engines are a completely different world from gasoline engines as far everything but the 4 stroke internal cumbustion design. There is a huge wide range of acceptable air fuel ratios with a diesel compared to a gas engine.
I know of coking issues with cooking oil because it needs to be at a certain temp to go through the fuel system, especially a high pressure common rail like mine.
There are systems on large stationary equipment that will actually drain a certain amount of oil from the pan to the fuel tank to be burned, and then fresh oil is added to replace it. No it's not 50%, more like 5%.
As far as the price of the oil, you have to find a deal on bulk oil to get it at a cost benificial price. But there are many people out there running waist engine oil in theirs. Some places pay to have that taken away.
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I have heard of people running 2 stroke oil as well and also tranny fluid. They say it even helps the diesel out. I have personally never tried any of this if I want cheaper gas I will get farm grade from my buddies shop.
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Interesting facts, I need to look more into this! Sounds like its a pretty sweet deal, before long we will have to try some sort of alternative means to 100% diesel fuel. The way market trends are pointing, prices are only going to continue to rise. Here is an interesting article I was sent this morning at work:
http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_...15095909990027
~JOE~
http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_...15095909990027
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My neighbor uses the farm grade/red diesel and has over 500 gallons at his house at all times. He has two trucks with 150 gallon tanks full and then he has another at his house that stays full. He works construction but never has to pay for fuel. He is always trying to sell people in my area to get some quick cash. He sells it for $1 a gallon. I wish I had a diesel! He said I would never have to pay for fuel again that he would just give it to me.