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Old 01-25-2008 | 08:30 AM
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im trying to decide whether to get the lincoln precision 225 tig or the miller synchrowave 200, could anyone that has one these please give me your input, thanks!
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i have used both Miller and Lincoln tig welders. I personally prefer the Miller brand, and is what i own(syncrowave 250), but i'm not gonna say the Lincoln is bad, either. i would have to say whatever is the best bang for the buck. i'd say you can't go wrong with either one, but whichever has the most features for the least cost.
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I am partial to Miller, own a Syncrowave. I can say this, looks like Lincoln did a nice job on this unit,225 Lot of nice features the Miller dose not come with. Bit more power, compartments, crater control, auto balance, pulse light not a big deal but nice, enclosed point gaps- have had issues with mine.
Lincoln precision 225
For the extra money cant go wrong.

To boot your going to drop about 50.00 in a plug end and outlet if needed, which looks to come with it.
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I have the Miller 250, nice unit, we love it. One of my buddies & sponsors has a Lincoln, nice unit, he likes it.
Both nice pieces. Good luck.

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thanks for the input ive had good luck with miller migs, but wasnt sure on tig, the licoln is a little less money and looks to be a good machine, but just cant decide
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I dont know about everyone else but Ive used em all and I like Miller the best.
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has anyone used the synchrowave 200
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Originally Posted by craze4speed
has anyone used the synchrowave 200
I've used it. I own one. I like it.

Wow, reading that makes me think of see spot run.



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I've got a Miller Syncrowave and love it. I've got a little Lincoln mig too and it's a nice machine and neither has ever given me a bit of trouble. I think the Syncrowaves are very popular though and for good reason.
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miller...hands down
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Miller Synchrowave 200. Does all the turbo setup's, cages , supsension componets and odd jobs I do at the shop. Never once as it let me down.
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i have the lincoln 225 precisiontig and love it, i have never used the miller. i'm sure they are both excellent in quality, but i can only recommend the lincoln from my experience.
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I have a Lincoln PT185 and love it. The Lincoln/Miller thing is more of a religion question than a technical one. Both are excellent, so the bigger difference that you'll really experience is which one has a better dealer that you can work with.

Good luck.
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I own a syncrowave 250, have used a sync 200 and used to own a PT 225. On the lower end machines, the lincoln is the better machine IMHO, and it made plenty of money for me, but once I stepped up to the 250, I wont look back.

For your needs go with the PT 225, unless you are going to be doing heavy aluminum fab work.
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the lincoln goes to 230a vs. the miller with 200a do yall think the 200 on the miller is enough to do 1/4" steel with no problem, the power output is the only thing im questioning on the miller
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Originally Posted by craze4speed
the lincoln goes to 230a vs. the miller with 200a do yall think the 200 on the miller is enough to do 1/4" steel with no problem, the power output is the only thing im questioning on the miller
1/4 is near the upper limit of the 200, but it would do it.... I still recommend the Lincoln over the miller if I had to choose between these two, however I like the millers better in the higher price range.
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ok thanks
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If you plan on welding aluminum, I would suggest that you look into the inverter based welding equipment. The old school transformer based machines are about 4 time heavier and use 2 times as much electricity as the "newer" equipment. With the inverter based equipment (like the Miller Dynasty series) the AC hertz is adjustable (unlike transformers which are 60 hertz only), which changes the penetration on the weld. Old school has ball end electrode for AC, while the new school uses pointed electrode for better control.

Consider equipment by HTP, Thermadyne, Lincoln and Miller (plus the better Chinese manufacturers). For me, a Miller Dynasty 200 DX was the best all around choice. Check your local Craigslist, or Ebay for good deals on lightly used equipment.
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Originally Posted by Silver LT
If you plan on welding aluminum, I would suggest that you look into the inverter based welding equipment. The old school transformer based machines are about 4 time heavier and use 2 times as much electricity as the "newer" equipment. With the inverter based equipment (like the Miller Dynasty series) the AC hertz is adjustable (unlike transformers which are 60 hertz only), which changes the penetration on the weld. Old school has ball end electrode for AC, while the new school uses pointed electrode for better control.

Consider equipment by HTP, Thermadyne, Lincoln and Miller (plus the better Chinese manufacturers). For me, a Miller Dynasty 200 DX was the best all around choice. Check your local Craigslist, or Ebay for good deals on lightly used equipment.

Depends highly on his budget too, $1750 pt 225 vs $3000 dynasty

If he is an occaisional user or even uses it on a regular basis but not at a production level he wont notice the difference. And, a 90% of people who are new to welding or even old school welders do not know how to properly set up the dynasty, there are alot of variables to adjust, vs like 5 or 6 on a transformer machine.... sometimes simple is better, unless your making a living off of it.

I am a professional welder, I build suspension parts, every machine I use is transformer base. I would like a dynasty 350, but I really have no need, it would be like me buying a ferrari to drag race with, sure its fast and a status symbol, but my camaro will do the same thing, cheaper.

Even on aluminum, if your doing big production extremely high end aluminum work, a dynasty is justified, if not I dont think he should even consider it.

Just curious as to what you use your dynasty for?
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Originally Posted by BADD SS
Depends highly on his budget too, $1750 pt 225 vs $3000 dynasty

If he is an occaisional user or even uses it on a regular basis but not at a production level he wont notice the difference. And, a 90% of people who are new to welding or even old school welders do not know how to properly set up the dynasty, there are alot of variables to adjust, vs like 5 or 6 on a transformer machine.... sometimes simple is better, unless your making a living off of it.

I am a professional welder, I build suspension parts, every machine I use is transformer base. I would like a dynasty 350, but I really have no need, it would be like me buying a ferrari to drag race with, sure its fast and a status symbol, but my camaro will do the same thing, cheaper.

Even on aluminum, if your doing big production extremely high end aluminum work, a dynasty is justified, if not I dont think he should even consider it.

Just curious as to what you use your dynasty for?
Yeah, a lot of guys that are used to the tranformer welders have a hard time adjusting to inverters. More aptly put, they don't want to put in the time
Like any technology, you've got to understand it before you can fully utilize it.

I definitely don't agree that he wouldn't know the difference. The first time I used a thermal arc inverter to weld aluminum it took one bead and it was clear. I was hooked. We have a synchrowave 350 at work, and I'd pick my dynasty 200dx over that any day of the week(so long as I don't need the extra amps). Not to mention the thing weighs 45lbs and can run off of 110 or 220 or 480-3 phase.

The synchrowaves will handle the job just fine though, and the price difference is substantial.



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