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Old 11-21-2008, 01:43 AM
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Default Sound/heat deadening on a budget...

Interested in lowering the in-cabin sound/heat from outside sources. Bought a roll of Reflectix from Lowes - should help with heat. What sound deading material should I buy? C3 Corvette guys use "Frost King" and/or Reflectix from Lowes... Would Reflectix be enough for mild sound deadening and use on door panels? Does anybody here have experience with these products? Any recommendations? I haven't opened up the Reflectix yet so I can still return it... Was only $28 for a pretty large roll. This is what it looks like when applied:

I guess the best way to describe it is lightweight aluminum bubble wrap. It's to be glued to the body and the carpet is placed over it...

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If you want to buy stuff from lowes only, you can try peel and seal. It is asphalt based, so it might smell like tar for a while....and if the car gets really hot in the summer it might a bit also. I would personally use raammat sound deadening. I have used it and loved it. It is butyl rubber based, so it wont smell bad when it gets hot. I have heard nothing bad about it from anyone. Rick is a good guy to deal with also!
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i know a guy that did his entire camaro and says it made worlds of difference. he used the adhesive asphalt based stuff from lowe's
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Ok... I didn't want to use asphalt based ones from hardware stores and I didn't want to go all out with pricey stuff like raammat/dynamat (unless somehow it can be had for cheap)... Plus, all of those are heavy!
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Originally Posted by ZexGX
Ok... I didn't want to use asphalt based ones from hardware stores and I didn't want to go all out with pricey stuff like raammat/dynamat (unless somehow it can be had for cheap)... Plus, all of those are heavy!
raammat isnt expensive. Any deadening is going to be heavy...thats the point of it.
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Yes, use RAAMMat. And stop whining about weight. It doesn't bother our cars.
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Yes, use RAAMMat. And stop whining about weight. It doesn't bother our cars.
I have a V6 (see sig)... Weight makes a noticable difference... Plus, this is going to be my daily driver for a while and I don't want to blow extra money when I don't have to.

I put a layer (2 in some places) of Frost King on my drivers side door. I did it without gloves or longsleeves, so I'm waiting a bit to let the cuts heal before doing the passenger side (other projects to do anyways). It's definitely helped but I'm not sure how much until I finish the doors. At least it makes a very solid sound when closing the door now, instead of the usual clunk-rattle-rattle. I lined the side facing the cabin, and the inner side of the outer skin including the bottom where water collects (may have to remove that material in the future). Bass from that side seems to be audibly clearer but it could just be in my head.

It was $1 per square foot in a 15' roll. I used about one and a half to one and a quarter rolls on the driver side door (where the hell did it all go?!).

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That cheap stuff is going to melt and fall off of any vertical surface when summer comes. I think you'll regret it. It'll also leak tar out of the sides and get everything around it all sticky.
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
That cheap stuff is going to melt and fall off of any vertical surface when summer comes. I think you'll regret it. It'll also leak tar out of the sides and get everything around it all sticky.
It's not tar based... It's foam based. If it falls off, I don't care. It was $1/sq.ft. and I'd rather spend the money on best-of-the-best stuff for an LSx car. It's rated up to 200 degrees. If people with Corvettes use it, I think it will work for a cheap F-body.

Good reads:
http://mikemercury.home.att.net/sound.htm
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...rost-king.html

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Hm, the search button is my friend.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...ior-noise.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/stereo-el...-deadener.html

https://ls1tech.com/forums/stereo-el...pressions.html
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Oh, that stuff... Well, foam is good, too. It accomplishes a different purpose than mass-based stuff like Dynamat. I think foam is better in general, really.
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Lee,
I've done this before on my old camaro. I used Second Skin Damplifier Pro, Overkill Pro, Heatwave and Sludge. No it was not cheap but here's an idea.

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Nice. I have RAAMMatt all over, sludge inside the door panels (there's alittle RAAMMatt in them too) and behind the sail panel subwoofers and two layers of overkill pro on the floor. Awesome products, all.
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Nice. I have RAAMMatt all over, sludge inside the door panels (there's alittle RAAMMatt in them too) and behind the sail panel subwoofers and two layers of overkill pro on the floor. Awesome products, all.
yeah, i tried RAAMMATT after Second Skin. I liked Second Skin much better but i really loved the price of RAAMMATT. I Found SS much easier to apply but both work great. I wouldnt hesitate using either or again.
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has anyone on here used any of the FatMat stuff? its just a copy of dynamat.

its seems pretty good and its a bit cheaper that dynamat, you can get a 100sq' of it for like $140 shipped on ebay.

seems pretty decent.
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I completed both doors with Frost King. Going to go back and do a little changes to the handle/lock area on the drivers side for rattle reduction (figured it out when doing the passenger door). Road noise is noticably less, the doors feel much more solid, and now I can tell how shitty the stock speakers are! I'm happy with the results, just not the fact that now I have to get better speakers...
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What do you keep that frost king on with? Never used it but looking into getting mine done like that too.
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Originally Posted by Jwright41
What do you keep that frost king on with? Never used it but looking into getting mine done like that too.
Frost King is a layer of self-adhesive foam with a thin sheet of aluminum on one side. Looks sorta like Dynamat Extreme but in a roll. I cleaned the surfaces first before applying.

Not sure how much it'll help quiet down an SLP exhaust... All I know for sure is that a lot of C5 Vette guys use it, and it's FAA approved for use in light airplanes... haha
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California...after all that, what have you noticed about the sound inside the car?


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