Sound/Noise Insulation Idea... Pella SmartFlash
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So, I see people are recommending the asphalt based roofing rolls for noise dampening.
I got to thinking and realized I was overlooking something that is even cheaper and is BETTER quality.
Instead of paying $16 for a 1.5" x 50' or whatever the dimensions of those rolls are.
What would you say to something oh say.... 3" x 150' and TWO rolls cost just over the price of ONE roofing roll.
Oh, on top of that, might I mention that it is made of aluminum backed butyl.
Mind you, it's slightly thinner than most insulators... This only comes in at 13mils.![Bang Head](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_banghead.gif)
However, for roughly $40, you can do the entire car...
Pella SmartFlash is the product.
I got to thinking and realized I was overlooking something that is even cheaper and is BETTER quality.
Instead of paying $16 for a 1.5" x 50' or whatever the dimensions of those rolls are.
What would you say to something oh say.... 3" x 150' and TWO rolls cost just over the price of ONE roofing roll.
Oh, on top of that, might I mention that it is made of aluminum backed butyl.
Mind you, it's slightly thinner than most insulators... This only comes in at 13mils.
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However, for roughly $40, you can do the entire car...
Pella SmartFlash is the product.
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Whoops, my mistake. Thought I added it in there. Lowe's sells it. NOT HOME DEPOT! Home Depot doesn't carry Pella Products, only Andersen.
However, Lowe's is like $15-20/roll depending on location.
Now, if you take a quick look on eBay, you'll find the gold mine. "pella smart flash" as two words...
And I'm sitting here chuckling, there was a whole page full of results earlier.... not there's only a few left! Anyone here buy them? Lol.
You need just over 5 rolls to do one layer on the car which isn't too bad. And for the price difference, it may be worth it.
However, Lowe's is like $15-20/roll depending on location.
Now, if you take a quick look on eBay, you'll find the gold mine. "pella smart flash" as two words...
And I'm sitting here chuckling, there was a whole page full of results earlier.... not there's only a few left! Anyone here buy them? Lol.
You need just over 5 rolls to do one layer on the car which isn't too bad. And for the price difference, it may be worth it.
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I figured it was a viable option as a product. I'm not too knowledgeable on sound deadening, so besides mils designating the thickness, I have no idea as to how effective deadening is at X thickness.
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Sound deadening works by adding mass to a surface. The science is quite simple. Take a regular metal baking tray you would use to cook french fries on... Hold it in the air and hit it with your finger. Listen to the sound it makes.
Now - cover it with a few layers of duct tape. Hold it in the same fashion - and strike it in the same manner. You should notice the sound is muffled.
This is achieved by adding mass to the metal. It reduces the vibration properties of metal.
Simple as that
nothing too magic about it.
But the more dense the better.
Now - cover it with a few layers of duct tape. Hold it in the same fashion - and strike it in the same manner. You should notice the sound is muffled.
This is achieved by adding mass to the metal. It reduces the vibration properties of metal.
Simple as that
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But the more dense the better.
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Sound deadening works by adding mass to a surface. The science is quite simple. Take a regular metal baking tray you would use to cook french fries on... Hold it in the air and hit it with your finger. Listen to the sound it makes.
Now - cover it with a few layers of duct tape. Hold it in the same fashion - and strike it in the same manner. You should notice the sound is muffled.
This is achieved by adding mass to the metal. It reduces the vibration properties of metal.
Simple as that
nothing too magic about it.
But the more dense the better.
Now - cover it with a few layers of duct tape. Hold it in the same fashion - and strike it in the same manner. You should notice the sound is muffled.
This is achieved by adding mass to the metal. It reduces the vibration properties of metal.
Simple as that
![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
But the more dense the better.
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So I guess it comes down to after what thickness is there not going to be any significant gain in reduction.
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I've applied damplifier pro to my trans am. It's very dense and the results were great - but the real "sound" reduction after you've reduced vibration (the deadners job) is going to be closed cell foam.
I didn't put any foam in yet - because the carpet from classic industries had a very thick pile carpet, with a thick rubber matting, WITH key areas built up with that sound deadening material.
I didn't put any foam in yet - because the carpet from classic industries had a very thick pile carpet, with a thick rubber matting, WITH key areas built up with that sound deadening material.