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Old 04-17-2006, 05:59 PM
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Hey guys,

I own a 96 Buick Regal, Nice big trunk.. I love bass and think its time I put a nice system in the Buick. Question is I've been so out of the loop in car audio that I don't know which route to go. I was hoping you could recommend the right Amplifier and subs to put in my car...Although I'd like to keep the cost down. I'd like to get close 140db as I can. What do you recommend on a budget and where would you order them from??


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140dB? Isn't 120dB considered the threshhold for pain?

Whatever you decide to put in, please use it responsibly. Not everyone appreciates thumping bass track.
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i'm giving you an idea that i want lots of BASS, 120db would be plenty, i'm looking for suggestions on what to use
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I think you will have a hard time pushing those numbers on a budget. I like JL audio subs and their amps as well, they produce the bass you might want, but not at a budget price.
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You can hit your goal with one woofer.
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well what woofer/woofers do i need and how much... When I say budget can i get the bass I want for $1000 if its more tell me what I have to spend, I need at least 120db to be happy...
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kicker.. if you go kicker go with the solo x series ..forget the L5 or the L7's ... the solo x will do the job check out their website ...not sure how much their running for but that's what gonna get the job done
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Originally Posted by camaro2k
kicker.. if you go kicker go with the solo x series ..forget the L5 or the L7's ... the solo x will do the job check out their website ...not sure how much their running for but that's what gonna get the job done
It's over $1000. That thing seems sick. What's a good mono amp for one of those? I dont know of to many 2500rms amps.
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140 db isnt all that loud IMO......i hit 145 w/ 1000 watt amp pushing 2 10s and it didnt seem like a whole lot. maybe im just gettin use to it, idk. the way DBs work is that every increase of 5 dBs is double the sound output...

example: 145 dBs is twice as loud as 140....somoene correct me if im wrong but this is how it was explained to me at the stereo shop.
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ok so the Kicker Solo X 12" is $600, all I need is 1 of those I would think...which amp would run that, and how much for the amp
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Where did you find it for $600? I thought they were more, alot more.
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Originally Posted by Krazy98Z28
ok so the Kicker Solo X 12" is $600, all I need is 1 of those I would think...which amp would run that, and how much for the amp
it's a terrible sounding speaker. It's designed for the burp. If you want the bass to be musical, don't bother with the solo x.
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i think it's 3db is double the volume but it's been a long time since i was told that .Could be i have a bad memory lol
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Originally Posted by Honda Hunter
Where did you find it for $600? I thought they were more, alot more.

www.woofersetc.com

Originally Posted by wickedwarlock
it's a terrible sounding speaker. It's designed for the burp. If you want the bass to be musical, don't bother with the solo x.
well throw that idea out the window

is it that difficult to get 120db???

can't anyone recommend me something???
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I remember in the mid 90's Orion was the ****, are they still good?? cause looks like their prices are reasonable
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Orion sucks. JL Audio is definately the way to go. Look at a 1000/1 and a 12W7 or something.
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A stock stereo system is capable of pulling a 120...120, isnt very loud at all...and a 140 out of a trunk car isnt anything to scoff at..on the termlab anyway..

Originally Posted by wickedwarlock
it's a terrible sounding speaker. It's designed for the burp. If you want the bass to be musical, don't bother with the solo x.
obviously, youre not aware that the solo x has been in many world championship winning sq vehicles..Its all in the install, obviously if you throw it in a enormous box with an absurd amount of port area, tuned really high..its gonna sound like trash..just like any other sub.

Originally Posted by LastBlack02SS
Orion sucks. JL Audio is definately the way to go. Look at a 1000/1 and a 12W7 or something.
um, yeah ..have you even used an orion product lately? For the money you pay for a w7 and 1000/1, none the less, installation..you could buy 2 systems capable of outperforming that combo..JL is a solid, quality product, but its way over-priced for what you get..


Cant go wrong with RE Audio products...A pair of SE 15"s (600rms per/dual 4ohm) and a RE 12.1 (1200rms @ 1ohm) should be a sufficient amount of spl with a good mix of sound quality for under a thousand bucks shipped..Won our class at 2005's usaci finals using their subs. great customer service.

go to....

www.reaudio.com

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Well for starters if you want lots of BASS, scrap the SQ type subs. I don't care how much someone trys to tell you how great a SQ type sub is. If you want bass get top of the line mids & highs with (1) 15" or (2) 12" subs in a correctly built box. To get to 140db in a trunk car without it being open to the cabin your lookin at around 1000+ watts. I had a 93' probe with a 1000 watt kicker on a 15" Digital Design sub(which is made for bass competition) & $500 in Dynamat & polyfil in my car. It hit 143db off the dash on a db meter.

If you get SQ(Sound Quality) type subs they will scream you out of the car with way less bass. My probe had a open trunk & all bass bounced off rear hatch & straight to the windshield. So you get the idea.

I am only gonna put (2) 10" Pioneer subs(which I already have & they hit deep, hard & clear) & my Zapco 350i amp in my T/A. Should be plenty loud for me.

Good luck on your project.

P.S. - look into U.S. Amps if they are still around. Very good brand, or at least they used to be when I competed locally.
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140 in a regal? Easy.... Follow these simple steps:
1- pop out the back seat, and cut out 2 large holes using a sawzall, leaving 4" between the holes, and around the edge, since the regal has a solid sheet of metal behind the back seat.
2- buy this for around $500:

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...Product_ID=521
3- Buy two of these for about $210 each:

http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_....jsp?cid=15334

4- Spend the rest on .75" MDF to build a solid 5 cubic foot ported box.

You are probably going to want a high output alternator, and some 1/0 gauge wire, as well as a LOT of sound deadening. This will push you above $1K.
I imagine you could do the entire enchilada for $1k if you bought a used 1000 watt RMS name brand amp like these(which will sell for about $200-$250): http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKFORD-FOSGATE...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mmats-D300HC-Jl-...QQcmdZViewItem

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Originally Posted by Snootch
140 in a regal? Easy.... Follow these simple steps:
1- pop out the back seat, and cut out 2 large holes using a sawzall, leaving 4" between the holes, and around the edge, since the regal has a solid sheet of metal behind the back seat.
2- buy this for around $500:

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...Product_ID=521
3- Buy two of these for about $210 each:

http://www.hookedontronics.com/show_....jsp?cid=15334

4- Spend the rest on .75" MDF to build a solid 5 cubic foot ported box.

You are probably going to want a high output alternator, and some 1/0 gauge wire, as well as a LOT of sound deadening. This will push you above $1K.
I imagine you could do the entire enchilada for $1k if you bought a used 1000 watt RMS name brand amp like these(which will sell for about $200-$250): http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKFORD-FOSGATE...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mmats-D300HC-Jl-...QQcmdZViewItem
what do you guys think about this setup??



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