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Old 02-27-2013, 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
From talking to him and reading his posts he pretty much agrees.



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Adam has taken a lot of guess work and fear out of paint correction. I agree that it's not geared towards heavy correction, someone wanting to do it professionally or as a side job.

With everything being color coded it takes a lot of the guess work out of it. I year or so ago I was going to order his PC kit but then I found this thread. I'm a little more serious than most about paint correction so I held off buying anything for a while till I learned some.

Also quite true. Two different markets out there and Adams fills one of them nicely.
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I got my Rupes this morning and started using it tonight. I now completely understand what all the hype was about. This thing is amazing! It is so much more powerful than the PC and cuts so much faster. It will pay for itself after the job that I'm doing now.

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^I love the wheel you use to wrap up the hose, I'm so stealing that idea!
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Rupes is a boss machine, are you running the 5 or 6" backing plate?
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
Rupes is a boss machine, are you running the 5 or 6" backing plate?
Both. I did not see any draw backs using the 5 inch plate. With 21mm of throw sometimes the 6inch is just too big. Hell sometimes the the 5 inch plate is too much. The PC is nice to have when working in small areas.
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Ya I feel the same, that's why I'm grabbing a 3" GG DA
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
Ya I feel the same, that's why I'm grabbing a 3" GG DA
I have thought about that too but I don't know how much of a benefit it would be over the PC. Is the GG DA physically smaller than the PC?
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Ya it is a little smaller, i wanted it because of the size/ability to get in tight spaces and price 85$. Sucks its not that powerful but i dont plan on using it a ton.

I'd probably just run a 3" or 4" backing plate on your PC if you needed to get into tighter spots, that'd definitely be a cheaper thing to do since you already have a PC if you can.
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What's the best way to clean a black car that you intend to use for car shows?
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Originally Posted by LilJayV10
Both. I did not see any draw backs using the 5 inch plate. With 21mm of throw sometimes the 6inch is just too big. Hell sometimes the the 5 inch plate is too much. The PC is nice to have when working in small areas.
I'm using the 5" primarily on my LHR21.

I find it a bit easier to navigate than the 6" plate/pad combo. Same impressions as you though, insanely efficient machine - well worth the price of admission!

Polished out a third gen F-body for a client last week. Two step process, took barely half of a day for the entire compounding and polishing stages! I normally work slow and meticulously, but I find that the Rupes allows me to speed up my process while not sacrificing quality. I honestly felt a little bad about charging him my "usual" two step price

FANTASTIC machine. Haven't touched my Makita 9227 since my Rupes arrived, and frankly, I haven't missed it one bit!
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Originally Posted by xBrandonx
What's the best way to clean a black car that you intend to use for car shows?
Not to be rude, but you honestly need to go back and read this thread from the beginning. There is MORE than enough information in here to help you restore your paint to a brilliant finish.

Jeff takes quite a bit of time to offer his advice for free on this forum. Let's keep him from having to answer the same questions multiple times.
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Has anyone experience with FG400 yet? I have an order with AG should be here later this week, cant wait to give it a try!
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Just thought of something totally randomly and don't believe its been discussed in here yet.

On a daily driven car thats been corrected (assume correctly) and sealed, is there a reason to clay before the sealant is removed/worn off?

Would claying remove the sealant?

On my car I plan to clay when I remove the sealant before reapplying, but wondering if its worth doing at all in between?
Especially if you use one of those long lasting sealants.
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Originally Posted by happysem
Just thought of something totally randomly and don't believe its been discussed in here yet.

On a daily driven car thats been corrected (assume correctly) and sealed, is there a reason to clay before the sealant is removed/worn off?

Would claying remove the sealant?

On my car I plan to clay when I remove the sealant before reapplying, but wondering if its worth doing at all in between?
Especially if you use one of those long lasting sealants.
That's a good question.
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Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
Ya it is a little smaller, i wanted it because of the size/ability to get in tight spaces and price 85$. Sucks its not that powerful but i dont plan on using it a ton.

I'd probably just run a 3" or 4" backing plate on your PC if you needed to get into tighter spots, that'd definitely be a cheaper thing to do since you already have a PC if you can.
I have the 3 and 4 inch backing plates for the PC. So far it has worked just fine for what I need so I will probably stick with it unless I get one heck of a deal.....or decide I need another polisher.
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Originally Posted by xBrandonx
What's the best way to clean a black car that you intend to use for car shows?
I agree with Rare as per usual on most things. Depending on what shape the car is in now and how nice you want it to look will depend on what you have to do.

Paint correction(done correctly) is an involved process. This thread has pretty much everything you need to know about paint correction and detailing( I hate the word with a passion)

A lot of people over simplify paint correction because they don't know what is involved to do it correctly.

Take some time and read the thread, it will take a while. Take some notes, go back and read it again. It will take a while to grasp everything and even longer to perfect it.

There are many people here willing to help as long as you put the time in.

I'm not trying to discourage you but encourage you. If you find it's too time consuming or expensive try to find someone local who does it professionally. Be aware there are many hacks out there that think they know what they are doing but don't and will normally make it worse.
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Guys I'm so excited about about the Rupes, M100 and MF pad combo I wanted to share a few pics from the SUV I am correcting this week. Black 06' Denali. Clear coat is HARD. PC, MF and M105 wouldn't touch it. Two passes with the combo mentioned prior and you get near LSP results. This stuff cuts so fast and finishes down excellent. The pics look good but you should see it after a LC white pad and M205.

This combo is pretty aggressive and probably shouldn't be tried by someone just starting out. IMO these are rotary type results with a D/A. I also think even with a D/A polisher this combo could have you seeing primer if you aren't careful. Notice the tape across the character line above the fender. Respect the M100! Tape is cheap. Paint is not.

The halogen light is in the same place in the photo, same spot on the door. Notice the ladder and light stand is in the same spot. This is about as good as it gets for before/after pics. I wiped it down with Eraser to ensure there was no filling of any scratches.


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Originally Posted by happysem
Just thought of something totally randomly and don't believe its been discussed in here yet.

On a daily driven car thats been corrected (assume correctly) and sealed, is there a reason to clay before the sealant is removed/worn off?

Would claying remove the sealant?

On my car I plan to clay when I remove the sealant before reapplying, but wondering if its worth doing at all in between?
Especially if you use one of those long lasting sealants.
A sealant needs a completely bare surface to achieve maximum effectiveness. So yes, when you want to reapply a sealant before it has completely degraded you will want to do a strip wash. As to whether or not it needs clayed, do the bag test to figure it out. Usually claying will remove the remaining sealant that a strip wash did not remove.
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Originally Posted by CamaroSS27
Has anyone experience with FG400 yet? I have an order with AG should be here later this week, cant wait to give it a try!
Easily one of my favorite Menzerna products. It cuts like a compound and finishes like a polish, I know that sounds a little cliche, but it really does. Menzerna has yet to let me down with any of their products. I'd be willing to bet Jeff has tried this one, how could he not?!

I've used it on a few one step jobs, and each time my clients had thought the vehicle had been two stepped. It really does finish down LSP ready in many cases.
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Originally Posted by Rare96LT1Formula
Easily one of my favorite Menzerna products. It cuts like a compound and finishes like a polish, I know that sounds a little cliche, but it really does. Menzerna has yet to let me down with any of their products. I'd be willing to bet Jeff has tried this one, how could he not?!

I've used it on a few one step jobs, and each time my clients had thought the vehicle had been two stepped. It really does finish down LSP ready in many cases.
Rare,

What pad are you using with the FG400? I think I'm going to pick some up this weekend.


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