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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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Ok I can leave it on for a full 24 hours so I can remove it just in time to take to the beach for the 4th. What benefit will I see with a 2nd coat, longer protection, a better look?
I'm glad this topic was brought up.

Last week during a 90+ degree 70%+humidity day, I was having a hell of a time removing the BFWD after approximately a 1 hr cure time (I normally let it cure MUCH longer). I wanted the leave it on longer, but decided against it since the thin coating that was already on the car was a living nightmare to remove (plus was on an insane time deadline from my client). I've never had an experience like this with BFWD, even on humid day. I'm working in my 2.5 car garage FWIW.

I'm thinking that next time I apply BFWD, I'm going to do it at night when temps/humidity levels are low and let it cure 24 hours like I normally do.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Rare96LT1Formula
I'm glad this topic was brought up.

Last week during a 90+ degree 70%+humidity day, I was having a hell of a time removing the BFWD after approximately a 1 hr cure time (I normally let it cure MUCH longer). I wanted the leave it on longer, but decided against it since the thin coating that was already on the car was a living nightmare to remove (plus was on an insane time deadline from my client). I've never had an experience like this with BFWD, even on humid day. I'm working in my 2.5 car garage FWIW.

I'm thinking that next time I apply BFWD, I'm going to do it at night when temps/humidity levels are low and let it cure 24 hours like I normally do.
Its 84 here today with 65% humidity. My garage is probably around 60 though with not much humidity since the doors have been closed. Im going to try it out and take it off tomorrow around this time. Im just going to try to apply as thin as possible.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 12:33 PM
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Come up to north Alabama where its been 100 with 150% humitidty...fun times lol
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rare96LT1Formula
I'm glad this topic was brought up.

Last week during a 90+ degree 70%+humidity day, I was having a hell of a time removing the BFWD after approximately a 1 hr cure time (I normally let it cure MUCH longer). I wanted the leave it on longer, but decided against it since the thin coating that was already on the car was a living nightmare to remove (plus was on an insane time deadline from my client). I've never had an experience like this with BFWD, even on humid day. I'm working in my 2.5 car garage FWIW.

I'm thinking that next time I apply BFWD, I'm going to do it at night when temps/humidity levels are low and let it cure 24 hours like I normally do.

Rare,

Were you using a new bottle of BFWD? If so I'm wondering if you got a bad bottle. How are you applying it?
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Anyone have any pointers for applying gtechnic's exo? I haven't seen it mentioned in the thread yet
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 11:12 AM
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I just recently purchased a new vehicle, and was curious if i would gain anything from polishing a fresh straight from factory paint? The car has already been clayed it and am ready to seal and wax (Wolgang 3.0 & Pinnacle Souveran). Are some polishes less abraisve than others? Any recomendations or insight would be greatly appreaciated.

. . . .'13 Plum Crazy Challenger (if it matters)
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Rare, after about 22 hours BFWD came off really nice and easy. I have to work today so I couldnt let it sit for the 24 but I was amazed how easy it came off.
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by rbl3
I just recently purchased a new vehicle, and was curious if i would gain anything from polishing a fresh straight from factory paint? The car has already been clayed it and am ready to seal and wax (Wolgang 3.0 & Pinnacle Souveran). Are some polishes less abraisve than others? Any recomendations or insight would be greatly appreaciated.

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I'm going to say yes but the only way to know for sure is look it over really good mid morning when its sunny outside. That will show all the different types of paint defects, swirls, scratches, spider webbing and holograms. Also use a halogen light if you have one. A hologen light will show micro marring .A vast majority of new cars have paint defects in them from either transport, poor prep at the factory or poor dealer prep. I work at a dealership and its amazing how scratched up cars are when they are brand new. I really like my dealership but it's "detail" department leaves a lot to be desired.

IMO since the car is new, is the best time to correct the paint. Use proper washing and drying techniques and your car should look great for a long time. I bet that car is amazing, I love that color.

Polishes have different levels of abrasives. Depending on what condition paint is in and how hard/soft it is will dictate what polish and pad you use. I have no experience with newer Chrysler paint so I can't say if its hard or soft. Maybe Rare has some experience with this.

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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 09:13 PM
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i have a excursion here. that I normally use maguires products on. looking for something better, seen you guys talking about bfwd, Do you use something over the top of that if so what do you guys like to use
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 10:14 PM
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i have a excursion here. that I normally use maguires products on. looking for something better, seen you guys talking about bfwd, Do you use something over the top of that if so what do you guys like to use

Which meguiars products are you using and for what? For some things they are some of the best. It just depends on which products.
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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mostly there gold class products- car wash, car wax and ultimate detailer. ive tried there tech wax line 2.0 but didnt seem as good to me but maybe I didnt give it a fair chance
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 01:10 AM
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can i use a megs105/205 on LCC pads topped with collinite 845 on a boat? or do i HAVE to use marine stuff?
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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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can i use a megs105/205 on LCC pads topped with collinite 845 on a boat? or do i HAVE to use marine stuff?
It depends on the finish on the boat and its condition. If it's gel coat and it's really dried out you're going to have problems with it soaking up the oils in the polish. The marine products are made with this in mind. If it's in good shape but just a little scratched you would probably be alright to use the 105 and 205.
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mac62989
Rare, after about 22 hours BFWD came off really nice and easy. I have to work today so I couldnt let it sit for the 24 but I was amazed how easy it came off.
Why are you guys letting BFWD sit on the paint for 24 hours?

Curing and hazing are two way different things. You want the sealant to haze, do the finger swipe test, if it passes, then remove it. If it doesn't pass the swipe test, wait a little longer for it to haze over.

Curing is how long the sealant has sat on the paint AFTER being wiped off completely and without being exposed to any sort of water.

And I recall on average the cure time for BFWD for being topped is about 8 hours, from blackfire..
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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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Someone smarter than me told me about it so I listened.
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Check this out. I'm sure it could be used somewhere on a car.

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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 12:41 AM
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Obviously you wouldn't want to use it on your windshield but I wonder if you could use it on the front of car so bugs wouldn't stick.
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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If your in the detailers buddies section on Facebook there was a post about it a month or so ago
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Old Jul 8, 2013 | 10:09 AM
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Were you using a new bottle of BFWD? If so I'm wondering if you got a bad bottle. How are you applying it?
The bottle is approximately 1.5 years old. About 3/4 full still since I apply it so thin (less is more with BFWD imo) and I typically apply two coats if my schedule & clients schedule allows. I'm really not sure what happened in my case, but the only hunch that I have is that the extreme humidity played a factor. Gloss was still fantastic, it was just a PITA to remove, which has NEVER been my experience with BFWD in any circumstance until recently.

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Rare, after about 22 hours BFWD came off really nice and easy. I have to work today so I couldnt let it sit for the 24 but I was amazed how easy it came off.
Any idea what the humidity was, roughly? Working in an enclosed space as well? I'm still completely stumped at what happened with my last experience. I'm thinking that I'll just order a new bottle, as it is one of my clients' most preferred sealant options. Thank you for posting your recent experiences guys.
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Anyone have any pointers for applying gtechnic's exo? I haven't seen it mentioned in the thread yet
Follow the instructions very closely, it is very easy as long as the panels are properly cleaned and not to hot. I would do a panel then you buff it right off. Make sure there is no smudges in paint or anything, had a friend do that on his GTI and we had to go back after it was sealed in.
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