Rebuilt 4L60E issues. Finally fixed!
I just had my 4L60E rebuilt. Its pretty much stock other than beast sunshell and transgo shift kit with corvette servo. Converter was replaced twice, once during rebuild process then again after the fact because I was given a high stall converter, but needed low stall.
Pressures were tested and found to be low while connected or disconnected from PCM.
Transgo boost valve was installed. (Made pressure go up, but goes back down when warm)
Transgo OS drop in Pressure Regulator valve was installed.
Gently oversized AFL valve was installed.
New Solenoids were replaced 3 times.
Forward accumulator was upgraded to aluminum.
Pressure manifold switch was replaced.
Wiring harness was replaced.
Decided to take everything apart myself and get to the bottom of what Could be going bad.
Replaced apply pistons.
Replaced separator plate and gaskets due to severe wear from checkballs.
Replaced a lot of seals/O-rings while I was inside of it.
1- Low pressure in all gears. park is 40, reverse is 35, drive is 40 (all at stop).
2- At take off, the engine rpm goes up, but the transmission doesn't go into gear until rpms reach around 1300 to 1500 rpm with a solid kick into gear.
3- around 45-55 mph, it seems like torque convert clutch goes in and out with a slight rpm jump of 200-300 rpm every 5-10 seconds. (this is normally after driving 20 minutes and getting warmed up)
4- harsh 1-2 shift after 20+ minutes of driving.
Things that I have done to try and figure out the problem:
1- I have replaced all solenoids in valve body to see if that was causing any type of issue.
2- checked all valves in the valve body, everything SEEMED fine, but I'm no expert and I don't know for sure.
3- adjusted the pressure control solenoid 1/4 of a turn to raise pressure up some to see if this helps with anything.
4- took main connecter off and checked pressure that way to see if it was electrical issue, pressures went down more.
Any help would be appreciated, I have no idea what else to look for and the person that rebuilt it is not doing any more work at this time for some personal reason. I don't want to spend much more money when I just had it rebuilt.
Last edited by atlsoldier27; Jul 24, 2022 at 11:40 AM.
I haven't taken the transmission back out since it was put back in, so I haven't seen the boost valve at all. I was told it was upgraded with the transgo shift kit.
I was hoping it wouldn't come down to taking it back out to check any of that.
as far as the pressures around that RPM, I haven't documented what they are yet, I will have to get back to you on that one.
Last edited by bbond105; May 23, 2022 at 10:40 PM.
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The mentioned accumulators and forward abuse valve are irrelevant to the Reverse circuit. Granted the reverse abuse valve could leak pressure but not that much unless it was left out. (And then Forward pressure would be OK)
I would bet money that the problem lies with the boost valve - perhaps it is installed upside down or the wrong one was installed (if a Sonnax replacement) or if the TG shift kit, the aluminum spacer was left out of a pre-2005 trans or installed on a 2005+ trans.
The boost valve is activated by the reverse circuit to automatically increase line pressure in reverse. With the connector removed, I would expect to see 200+ psi in reverse.
This diagram from the 4L60E Technician's Guide shows all parts of the Reverse circuit.
I would suggest dropping the pan and with a pair of snap ring pliers removing the cover for the boost valve, carefully taking out all the parts in order and posting a picture of them. Also tell us what year your vehicle/trans is. A picture of the area where the boost valve was removed would be helpful too as that will tell us whether you have an old-style or new-style pump, which affects the type of boost valve which should be there.
Note that you do NOT need to remove the trans to do this, just drop the pan. Unless the builder really messed up rebuilding the pump, we should be able to resolve this without removing the trans.
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The mentioned accumulators and forward abuse valve are irrelevant to the Reverse circuit. Granted the reverse abuse valve could leak pressure but not that much unless it was left out. (And then Forward pressure would be OK)
I would bet money that the problem lies with the boost valve - perhaps it is installed upside down or the wrong one was installed (if a Sonnax replacement) or if the TG shift kit, the aluminum spacer was left out of a pre-2005 trans or installed on a 2005+ trans.
The boost valve is activated by the reverse circuit to automatically increase line pressure in reverse. With the connector removed, I would expect to see 200+ psi in reverse.
This diagram from the 4L60E Technician's Guide shows all parts of the Reverse circuit.
I would suggest dropping the pan and with a pair of snap ring pliers removing the cover for the boost valve, carefully taking out all the parts in order and posting a picture of them. Also tell us what year your vehicle/trans is. A picture of the area where the boost valve was removed would be helpful too as that will tell us whether you have an old-style or new-style pump, which affects the type of boost valve which should be there.
Note that you do NOT need to remove the trans to do this, just drop the pan. Unless the builder really messed up rebuilding the pump, we should be able to resolve this without removing the trans.
he mechanic at a local trans shop installs the Sonnax boost valve in all/most trans he rebuilds even for Grandma cars due its better sealing capabilities. (Maybe he turns the EPC down a bit to restore stock shift pressure.)
I know there is a valve beyond this point, but I couldnt get it out.
Nothing much to see here, But i was able to get the snap ring out and get the boost valve out of place.
I ordered a sonnax .500 boost valve to replace this, but im wondering if I got the wrong one. I have a 97 4l60e. This one i got says late models, no years in information. Could you point me in the right direction for the right boost valve?
Last edited by atlsoldier27; May 25, 2022 at 03:17 PM. Reason: Adding a question.
Neither the stock nor Sonnax boost valve uses such a spacer, but a builder using the Transgo kit should know that the spacer is needed for pre-2005 transmissions.
Sonnax makes two different boost valves, a longer one for pre-2005 and a shorter one for 2005+. (IIRC 2005 can go either way.)
Neither the stock nor Sonnax boost valve uses such a spacer, but a builder using the Transgo kit should know that the spacer is needed for pre-2005 transmissions.
Sonnax makes two different boost valves, a longer one for pre-2005 and a shorter one for 2005+. (IIRC 2005 can go either way.)
@mrvedit I bought the wrong valve then. I will get the right one. I appreciate your help man. I will post back when I get all of this done.
HOWEVER, looking at your picture in post #14, it kinda looks like you have a newer transmission. Might it be a 2007?
Look at the Sonnax site picture of the pump types:
https://d2q1ebiag300ih.cloudfront.ne...=1634241562998
(Or go to https://www.sonnax.com/parts/2168-li...re-booster-kit and select "View Instructions".)
If you do have the newer pump style then the boost parts in your picture are correct.
Perhaps someone else can pass judgement on your pump's picture.
HOWEVER, looking at your picture in post #14, it kinda looks like you have a newer transmission. Might it be a 2007?
Look at the Sonnax site picture of the pump types:
https://d2q1ebiag300ih.cloudfront.ne...=1634241562998
(Or go to https://www.sonnax.com/parts/2168-li...re-booster-kit and select "View Instructions".)
If you do have the newer pump style then the boost parts in your picture are correct.
Perhaps someone else can pass judgement on your pump's picture.
Edit: looking at photos that were sent during rebuild, the pump cast has 97 stamped on it just like the VB itself has. So I’m pretty sure it’s early style.
Last edited by atlsoldier27; May 26, 2022 at 05:49 AM. Reason: Adding info
Edit: looking at photos that were sent during rebuild, the pump cast has 97 stamped on it just like the VB itself has. So I’m pretty sure it’s early style.









