Ke^in

Because those can't be changed?

USArmyZ28

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Would a 5.0 N/A engine be as bolt on mod friendly as the LSX's?

I can easily forsee this mustang wiping out the competition and putting the final nail in the coffin in 2011 I pay off my WS6, new Mustang perhaps in my driveway? Im not to fond of its styling honestly though

USArmyZ28

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Also, what about this things weight? I keep hearing about new mandated vehicle safety regulations that require vehicles to weigh to a certain limit?

I just saw this on LA Preview

Top safety marks expected
Mustang's technological advances are also incorporated in the structure of the vehicle to improve safety. The 2010 Mustang coupe earned the U.S. government's top five-star crash-test rating, a designation the 2011 model is expected to achieve

The Mustang's considerable body stiffness contributes to the coupe and convertible's driving performance and has a parallel benefit in accident protection. While the coupe's body structure is approximately 31 percent stiffer than the previous Mustang platform, the convertible's is more than twice as stiff – creating a structure that helps protect the cabin from deformation and intrusion in an impact.

Mustang also uses high-strength steel in its body structure and ultra-high-strength steel in the door intrusion beams for additional side-impact protection

Does this mean they ADDED the steel just now or its been there?

This mustang will almost make LS1's obsolete honesty, with bolt ons (if its not already maxed out as with so many other DOHC modern V8's) it will meet or exceed HCI LS1's, let alone cammed or boosted 5.0's.

Ke^in

It weighs like 10 more lbs?

USArmyZ28

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Where have you seen this from a credible source? I cant find actual statistics anywhere honestly. What about how mod friendly the engine is?

88blackgt

the safety reqs arent mandatory until 2016, by then the mustang will be getting another redesign.

as for boost it should be fine when DI comes. boost + di is just insane.

88blackgt

ford posted the weights. mod friendly is unknown atm, aftermarket companies have probably already been working on some things.

USArmyZ28

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Damn if this thing responds well to basic mods its going to be a slaughter house on wheels. Why the **** is the Camaro and challenger over 4,000 pounds almost? How much do these mustangs weigh? 3600 pounds?

novicius

I'm sure the corporate answer is "If you want FI, get the Shelby."

TransFan

Speaking about regulations..From what I have read it is based on an average. If the set mpg must be 18 city and the zr1 gets 16 city (not sure) then it can be offset by a cobalt that gets say 26 city. Point is I believe the standard isn't per car but an average of their cars. Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe I may have seen this on the news also. So I wouldn't worry about hp or engine sizes decreasing.

USArmyZ28

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apparently the car isnt that light, http://blogs.insideline.com/straight..._fe_9998_1.JPG 3875 and 4000 pounds? It offers roughly about the same mpg as the LS3 and makes less torque and less horsepower then the Camaro and its still much heavier then the average fbody. My car (full factory weight including spare and jack) with a bunch of crap in the trunk, full tank of gas and a 260-270 pound driver weigh in at 3700 pounds.

88blackgt

go look at some of the other threads on here, theres more current and accurate info

from the horses mouth
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...g_GT_Specs.pdf

proporio

From what you posted,
GT manual is 3603 lb.
GT auto is 3658 lb.

that makes it what 200 lb. lighter than current Camaro?
that surely makes up for the less hp/tq compared to new Camaro.

It will definately lay the smackdown on current GT owners.

JeaneZ28

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I would have to say no. Though its not because the LS motors are superior. If you compare the current Mustang motor to the LS1 mod for mod the LS1 will gain more HP. Even though they have similar HP numbers stock. The same thing is going to happen mod for mod on the LS3 and 5.0. The Ford motors have less displacement which is why they need less restriction to gain the same power. Since the LS motors have more restrictions when you do a similar mod it gains more from that mod.

USArmyZ28

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As cool as I think this car will be and its going to sell like wild fire, just because its a 5.0. That name alone will sell because of the legacy behind it, but from an potential stand point I dont see it doing to much, I think that engine may already come maxed out from the factory. Sort of like high end cars i.e. E46 BMW V8's are not bolt on friendly until introducted to FI, with the some what high compression of the 5.0 it doesnt seem to FI friendly and most people are not going to want to tear apart their brand new mustang to run a KB in it. **** I wouldnt lol, but I am loving the weight if its at 3600 pounds thats pretty much a 412bhp fbody.

02ws666

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i honestly dont think that it will beat the new camaro.
and this is why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C9zanLcpXY

Fords problem is, they cant get that power to the ground. so its pointless. i dont see a ~130 hp less car beating the camaro if the gt500 barely does... just MY OPINION however..

USArmyZ28

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put radials on the GT500, only time will tell what exactly ford has planned for the upcoming season. As for me with a 10 year old cammed LS1 at 423rwhp Im getting a set of heads to keep up with times lol.

88blackgt

This makes no sense. You're comparing the GT500, with a larger engine and positive displacement blower, to a N/A 302? No **** the GT500 wont hook up on factory tires. Torque here is more important than horsepower.

On a side note *edit* read next post
http://www.grand-am.com/news/index.c...es=r&cid=24720



theyre spinning those ******* pretty high; boss 302 in the works?

88blackgt

forgot there was so much in that article, heres the part pertaining to the mustang

Maxwell ended the weekend with the fastest Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge Grand Sport (GS) time, 1:59.215 (107.503 mph), in the No. 16 Multimatic Motorsports Ford Mustang GT. Maxwell, teaming with fellow 2008 driving champion Joe Foster, set the time during Saturday's afternoon session. Maxwell also won the 2005 championship, the last full season for Multimatic in Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge competition.

"It went well beyond our expectations," said Maxwell of the new Boss 302R model, which was painted up to mirror the Bud Moore-owned Mustang that competed in the 1970s. "The car is very competitive, and we're happy with the program. There is still more room for improvement, but long-term I think it's going to be a strong car. We're not going away thinking everything's rosy, but it's a good start."

Dean Martin led the final practice session of the day in the No. 52 Rehagen Racing Ford Mustang GT, clocking in at 1:59.280 (107.445 mph), only .065 seconds behind Maxwell. Martin's 2009 co-driver Ken Wilden, who won last year's title, was second quick in Sunday's afternoon session and third overall at 1:59.399 (107.338 mph) in the No. 59 Belesta Ford Mustang GT.

Overall, eight cars lapped the track under two minutes. Fourth was Todd Snyder on Saturday afternoon at 1:59.710 (107.058 mph) in the No. 11 CMA Motorsports Ford Mustang GT, while the only car other than a Mustang - the No. 97 Turner Motorsport BMW M3 - finished fifth with Joey Hand behind the wheel Sunday morning at 1:59.724 (107.046 mph).

Top Ten January Test Days at Daytona Results for GS in last session

1 52 GS 1 Gullatta / Martin / Michaelian / Winchester Rehagen Racing / Ford Mustang GT 1:59.280 107.444
2 59 GS 2 Caddell / Martin / Michaelian / Wilden Rehagen Racing / Ford Mustang GT 1:59.399 107.337
3 48 GS 3 Espenlaub / Putman Fall-Line Motorsports / BMW M3 Coupe 1:59.769 107.005
4 61 GS 4 Johnson / Roush Roush Performance / Ford Mustang GT 2:00.307 106.527
5 13 GS 5 Bacardi / Plumb Rum Bum Racing / BMW M3 Coupe 2:00.627 106.244
6 6 GS 6 Bell / Bucknum Stevenson Motorsports / Camaro GS.R 2:00.647 106.227
7 79 GS 7 Hall / Prusinski Kinetic Motorsports / BMW M3 Coupe 2:00.690 106.189
8 16 GS 8 Foster / Maxwell Multimatic Motorsports / Ford Mustang GT 2:00.783 106.107
9 57 GS 9 Caddell / Martin / Mason / Michaelian / Michaelian / Winchester Rehagen Racing / Ford Mustang GT 2:01.211 105.732
10 83 GS 10 Cosmo / Tetreault BGB Motorsports / Porsche Carrera 2:01.276 105.676

Ke^in

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Pants got tighter.

Love the looks of the new front end.