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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 09:54 AM
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It's A.C. cobra replica in UK.
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 10:06 AM
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It's A.C. cobra replica in UK.
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Swap over to Holley EFI and use the TurboLamik. It'll be an incredible combination.

Does your Cobra replica have a solid axle or independent suspension?

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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 10:32 AM
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Hi,
independent it's, jaguar xjs.
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 11:16 AM
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independent it's, jaguar xjs.
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Have you estimated where the ZF output flange might land? The Cobras have very short driveshafts which doesn't leave many options for adapters, etc...A Dodge car version would be straightforward to adapt with a CV at the transmission and a U-joint to the Dana Jaguar rear end.

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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 11:34 AM
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Was thinking along the lines of this?
https://www.benzforce.com/products/8...bAK-pvLuyzv24y
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gav
Was thinking along the lines of this?
https://www.benzforce.com/products/8...bAK-pvLuyzv24y
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It's not what I would use, but that is a solution.

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Old Oct 16, 2024 | 01:56 PM
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A few months back I started working with HPR Tuning. They are a company that make various accessories for the 8HP transmissions. I told them that an adapter for the transmission cooler lines with a thermostat would be a real problem solver. So through a series of iterations and my input they finally have a product. It was also made in collaboration with Improved Racing.




This part bolts to the side of the transmission after removing the threaded inserts.



The thermostat starts to open at 160 degrees F and targets 165F as a stable point, with the benefit of quicker fluid warm-up.



The o-rings seal against the ports on the transmission.



The inlet and outlet ports are AN-8. They are in stock on the Improved Racing website.

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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 06:45 AM
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does it allow for some flow if the thermostat fails closed?
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know
(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
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Old Oct 17, 2024 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bobcratch
does it allow for some flow if the thermostat fails closed?
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know
(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
Here are the details about the Improved Racing thermostat:
https://www.improvedracing.com/compa...hermostat.html

I am sure if you call them, they will give you more details.

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Originally Posted by bobcratch
does it allow for some flow if the thermostat fails closed?
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know
(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
The thermostat can never fail in a way that would block fluid flow. If it failed, you would either have full flow at all times (temps too low) or bypass at all times (temps too high). Note that even in bypass mode, a small amount of fluid still flows through the cooler and is cooled (around 5% typically).

If you install that thermostat bypass mentioned above, you are likely to overcool your transmission, resulting in rough shifts. It may be ok if you have a very small cooler.
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Old Oct 18, 2024 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ImprovedRacing
The thermostat can never fail in a way that would block fluid flow. If it failed, you would either have full flow at all times (temps too low) or bypass at all times (temps too high). Note that even in bypass mode, a small amount of fluid still flows through the cooler and is cooled (around 5% typically).

If you install that thermostat bypass mentioned above, you are likely to overcool your transmission, resulting in rough shifts. It may be ok if you have a very small cooler.
thanks for the reply. it is great to see vendors active on these forums. i think the failure mode for the 6L80e thermostat is "bypass at all times". In my case i do have one of those installed and the transmission fluid is usually about 150F on the road and 190F sitting in traffic. The fluid still goes through the radiator since thats how the factory set it up, but in the world of aftermarket/modified vehicles i think many people just run a beefy cooler and call it good - so having a thermostat is a great idea in that configuration. definitely not trying to discount the usefulness or quality of the product in any way, just mentioning that it could be something to keep an eye out for.
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Originally Posted by ImprovedRacing
The thermostat can never fail in a way that would block fluid flow. If it failed, you would either have full flow at all times (temps too low) or bypass at all times (temps too high). Note that even in bypass mode, a small amount of fluid still flows through the cooler and is cooled (around 5% typically).

If you install that thermostat bypass mentioned above, you are likely to overcool your transmission, resulting in rough shifts. It may be ok if you have a very small cooler.
Thanks for chiming in. Looking forward to stopping at your booth again at PRI.

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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 08:34 PM
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Little action from last Thursday.


We were making consistent 10.9x passes at 124.x MPH. Sixty foot times were in the 1.5x range. This was done with over 100 pounds of subwoofers and a spare tire in the trunk.

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Old Nov 21, 2024 | 05:20 PM
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The 8HP90 that I picked up had a mystery converter in it. It didn't look stock and frankly I didn't trust it. So I called up Circle D and had a discussion about my requirements. Here is what they suggested:



This is their hybrid 8HP90 converter. Externally it is the same size as the 8HP70 converter, which is 1/2" smaller in diameter than a stock 90 converter, but internally it is built to work with the 8HP90 transmission.

Here you can also see the Domiworks bellhousing adapter.



and the Domiworks converter adapter.



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Old Nov 25, 2024 | 01:49 PM
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how much clearance is there between the bellhousing adapter (looks like a hoop where the starter probably is) and the converter adapter? the picture probably exaggerates it but it doesnt look like much. also probably doesnt need much.
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Old Nov 25, 2024 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bobcratch
how much clearance is there between the bellhousing adapter (looks like a hoop where the starter probably is) and the converter adapter? the picture probably exaggerates it but it doesnt look like much. also probably doesnt need much.
That ring actually needs to be cut off because it does not serve a purpose.

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Old Dec 10, 2024 | 02:03 PM
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Here is a cool product that you guys might be interested in:

https://www.crossmembers.com/product...n-gf-mut-8hp70

I will be using it to mock up the 8HP70 in my Cougar, along with their Godzilla mock-up block.

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The price isn’t too bad. Big plus.
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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
A few months back I started working with HPR Tuning. They are a company that make various accessories for the 8HP transmissions. I told them that an adapter for the transmission cooler lines with a thermostat would be a real problem solver. So through a series of iterations and my input they finally have a product. It was also made in collaboration with Improved Racing.




This part bolts to the side of the transmission after removing the threaded inserts.



The thermostat starts to open at 160 degrees F and targets 165F as a stable point, with the benefit of quicker fluid warm-up.



The o-rings seal against the ports on the transmission.



The inlet and outlet ports are AN-8. They are in stock on the Improved Racing website.

Andrew
Does this fit your 8hp90? On their website they state it doesn’t work with the 90. If not have you heard if they are developing one? Thanks. I am swapping a 8hp90 into my Sierra replacing a t56. Will be using my terminator x max with turbolamik also, appreciate you helping to break through with this stuff.
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Old Dec 14, 2024 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 06TurboSierra
Does this fit your 8hp90? On their website they state it doesn’t work with the 90. If not have you heard if they are developing one? Thanks. I am swapping a 8hp90 into my Sierra replacing a t56. Will be using my terminator x max with turbolamik also, appreciate you helping to break through with this stuff.
It does not work with the 8HP90, but there is a version that is coming out for the 90. Right now they have both the 8HP70 Dodge car and also the truck versions. I have a 90 for my GTO, so obviously I am interested in the 90 version as well.

I will post here when details are available.

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