View Poll Results: Are you interested in swapping the ZF8HP transmission?
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ZF8HP Transmission swap
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From: Little Austin
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Have you estimated where the ZF output flange might land? The Cobras have very short driveshafts which doesn't leave many options for adapters, etc...A Dodge car version would be straightforward to adapt with a CV at the transmission and a U-joint to the Dana Jaguar rear end.
Andrew
Andrew
Was thinking along the lines of this?
https://www.benzforce.com/products/8...bAK-pvLuyzv24y
regards
gav
https://www.benzforce.com/products/8...bAK-pvLuyzv24y
regards
gav
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From: Little Austin
Was thinking along the lines of this?
https://www.benzforce.com/products/8...bAK-pvLuyzv24y
regards
gav
https://www.benzforce.com/products/8...bAK-pvLuyzv24y
regards
gav
Andrew
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A few months back I started working with HPR Tuning. They are a company that make various accessories for the 8HP transmissions. I told them that an adapter for the transmission cooler lines with a thermostat would be a real problem solver. So through a series of iterations and my input they finally have a product. It was also made in collaboration with Improved Racing.

This part bolts to the side of the transmission after removing the threaded inserts.

The thermostat starts to open at 160 degrees F and targets 165F as a stable point, with the benefit of quicker fluid warm-up.

The o-rings seal against the ports on the transmission.

The inlet and outlet ports are AN-8. They are in stock on the Improved Racing website.
Andrew

This part bolts to the side of the transmission after removing the threaded inserts.

The thermostat starts to open at 160 degrees F and targets 165F as a stable point, with the benefit of quicker fluid warm-up.

The o-rings seal against the ports on the transmission.

The inlet and outlet ports are AN-8. They are in stock on the Improved Racing website.
Andrew
does it allow for some flow if the thermostat fails closed?
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know
(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know
(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
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From: Little Austin
does it allow for some flow if the thermostat fails closed?
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know
(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know

(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
https://www.improvedracing.com/compa...hermostat.html
I am sure if you call them, they will give you more details.
Andrew
does it allow for some flow if the thermostat fails closed?
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know
(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
inquiring minds who have lost a 6L80e to said failure want to know

(its a common thing for folks with 6L80e to install this part - https://superiortransmission.com/pro...perior-stl010/. added bonus is that it's easier to check the fluid level because you dont have to wait for the transmission to fully warm up to get flow through the thermostat)
If you install that thermostat bypass mentioned above, you are likely to overcool your transmission, resulting in rough shifts. It may be ok if you have a very small cooler.
The thermostat can never fail in a way that would block fluid flow. If it failed, you would either have full flow at all times (temps too low) or bypass at all times (temps too high). Note that even in bypass mode, a small amount of fluid still flows through the cooler and is cooled (around 5% typically).
If you install that thermostat bypass mentioned above, you are likely to overcool your transmission, resulting in rough shifts. It may be ok if you have a very small cooler.
If you install that thermostat bypass mentioned above, you are likely to overcool your transmission, resulting in rough shifts. It may be ok if you have a very small cooler.
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From: Little Austin
The thermostat can never fail in a way that would block fluid flow. If it failed, you would either have full flow at all times (temps too low) or bypass at all times (temps too high). Note that even in bypass mode, a small amount of fluid still flows through the cooler and is cooled (around 5% typically).
If you install that thermostat bypass mentioned above, you are likely to overcool your transmission, resulting in rough shifts. It may be ok if you have a very small cooler.
If you install that thermostat bypass mentioned above, you are likely to overcool your transmission, resulting in rough shifts. It may be ok if you have a very small cooler.
Andrew
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From: Little Austin
Little action from last Thursday.
We were making consistent 10.9x passes at 124.x MPH. Sixty foot times were in the 1.5x range. This was done with over 100 pounds of subwoofers and a spare tire in the trunk.
Andrew
We were making consistent 10.9x passes at 124.x MPH. Sixty foot times were in the 1.5x range. This was done with over 100 pounds of subwoofers and a spare tire in the trunk.
Andrew
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The 8HP90 that I picked up had a mystery converter in it. It didn't look stock and frankly I didn't trust it. So I called up Circle D and had a discussion about my requirements. Here is what they suggested:

This is their hybrid 8HP90 converter. Externally it is the same size as the 8HP70 converter, which is 1/2" smaller in diameter than a stock 90 converter, but internally it is built to work with the 8HP90 transmission.
Here you can also see the Domiworks bellhousing adapter.

and the Domiworks converter adapter.

Andrew

This is their hybrid 8HP90 converter. Externally it is the same size as the 8HP70 converter, which is 1/2" smaller in diameter than a stock 90 converter, but internally it is built to work with the 8HP90 transmission.
Here you can also see the Domiworks bellhousing adapter.

and the Domiworks converter adapter.

Andrew
how much clearance is there between the bellhousing adapter (looks like a hoop where the starter probably is) and the converter adapter? the picture probably exaggerates it but it doesnt look like much. also probably doesnt need much.
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From: Little Austin
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Here is a cool product that you guys might be interested in:
https://www.crossmembers.com/product...n-gf-mut-8hp70
I will be using it to mock up the 8HP70 in my Cougar, along with their Godzilla mock-up block.
Andrew
https://www.crossmembers.com/product...n-gf-mut-8hp70
I will be using it to mock up the 8HP70 in my Cougar, along with their Godzilla mock-up block.
Andrew
A few months back I started working with HPR Tuning. They are a company that make various accessories for the 8HP transmissions. I told them that an adapter for the transmission cooler lines with a thermostat would be a real problem solver. So through a series of iterations and my input they finally have a product. It was also made in collaboration with Improved Racing.

This part bolts to the side of the transmission after removing the threaded inserts.

The thermostat starts to open at 160 degrees F and targets 165F as a stable point, with the benefit of quicker fluid warm-up.

The o-rings seal against the ports on the transmission.

The inlet and outlet ports are AN-8. They are in stock on the Improved Racing website.
Andrew

This part bolts to the side of the transmission after removing the threaded inserts.

The thermostat starts to open at 160 degrees F and targets 165F as a stable point, with the benefit of quicker fluid warm-up.

The o-rings seal against the ports on the transmission.

The inlet and outlet ports are AN-8. They are in stock on the Improved Racing website.
Andrew
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From: Little Austin
Does this fit your 8hp90? On their website they state it doesn’t work with the 90. If not have you heard if they are developing one? Thanks. I am swapping a 8hp90 into my Sierra replacing a t56. Will be using my terminator x max with turbolamik also, appreciate you helping to break through with this stuff.
I will post here when details are available.
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