30th TA 0219

so, you're removing the quadrant and cable, and affixing some sort of actuator to the clutch pedal, correct? Youre issue is more with packaging and location o fthe MC then?

Mystic96

Well I don't know of anyway to adapt the clutch cable to work with the LS1 T56, so I believe I'm stuck using the hydraulics. It should at least be cheaper than buying a new bellhousing and clutch fork setup.

So far the problem with putting the master cylinder through the firewall connected to the clutch pedal (like in an F-body), is that the unibody frame meets the floorpan directly in front of the clutch pedal. Thus leaving no room for the master cylinder.

The best location I've found to mount the master cylinder is on the firewall where the old clutch cable would come through, but this is located directly above the gas pedal, about 10-12 inches to the right of the clutch pedal.

Ford uses a shaft that rotates when the clutch pedal is depressed and turns a quadrant that pulls the clutch cable. I would need to some how make something that pushes in on the master cylinder, that I can mount where the stock quadrant would normally go.

I have considered trying to find a different type of master cylinder that could be used with the T56 like jbk240z said on the last page, but I wouldn't even have any idea where to begin to look.

30th TA 0219

what are the new Cobras using for clutch actuation? They use the T56, no?

Mystic96

New Cobras with T56 trannies still use a cable and clutch fork

30th TA 0219

so what's the problem in working a hybrid with that? (forgive my ignorance)

jbk240z

Don't laugh, but here is a wild idea for your dilema. How about taking a motorcycle brake master cylinder, make a bracket that locates it under dash and attaches to your existing pedal assembly, then just run the hose to your slave cylinder. simple idea, but don't know if you could find one large enough to work the slave cyl. But come to think of it, they aren't that much larger than a motorcycle brake caliper. Like I said just an idea to ponder. Good Luck! Get this car running so I can copy it with my 96 stang.

89lx-ls1

iTrader: (23)

Have u found a solution for your shifter?

CMcCarthy

The Brembo "Rotary" master cylinder favored by Super Moto racers would probably work well.

Mystic96

There's no way I know of to make a Cobra T56 mount to an LS1.

I'd actually considered that. The guy who owns the shop I have my car at rides a GSXR 750, and I noticed the rear brakes used a small hydraulic master cylinder. I just don't know if a master cylinder that small will move enough fluid to work the clutch, or if it could even be made to work with the hose that goes to the T56.

Shifter was never a problem. Just had to cut back part of the floor and weld an extention on the shifter handle.

89lx-ls1

iTrader: (23)

Shifter was never a problem. Just had to cut back part of the floor and weld an extention on the shifter handle.[/QUOTE]

Do you think u can post a pic of the shifter? I was going to go through Keisler and buy their kit that moves the shifter forward 2 3/8 of an inch.

30th TA 0219

why wouldn't a MC brack m/c work? They move a lot of fluid, you'd be surprise. That thing is ALL bore. I guees the 'simple' thing would be to fashion an adapter plate for the LS1 to the Cobra T56. They make them for other tranny/engine combos, right?

Mystic96

I don't have any pics right now, but I'll post some up when I get some.

If anyone made a bellhousing for an LS1 T56 that converted it to a cable and clutch fork, that would probably be the most "simple" thing to get it working.

I'd have to find someone make an adapter plate, and I'm sure that isn't going to be cheap. Plus it'd move the tranny back enough to mess up my mounts and shifter.

I'd like to stick with the stock master cylinder, just because I know it'll work like it's supposed to, just so long as I can get it mounted and attached to the pedal somehow.

30th TA 0219

well then just figure this **** out already, so I can get started on mine LOL

Mystic96

Well if my friggin painter guy would hurry his *** up painting my car, I could get this thing going already!

jbk240z

Idea: maybe swap bellhousing to an early T56 (93 to 97 camaro I think), which uses a pull-style clutch fork assembly, then maybe adapt it to the Mustang clutch cable, maybe a simple bracket to hold cable end, then attach clutch cable to clutch fork, similar to factory ford. I don't know if the input shafts match or not. It may be easier to swap to an LT1 type T56 and go from there. Good Luck!

Mystic96

That's another thing I considered. I just wasn't sure of how exactly an LT1 T56 differed from an LS1 T56. At least in the way you actuated the throwout bearing. Wish I had one to look at.

30th TA 0219

I had thought about that as well, but wasn't quite sure of the differences either. Never owned and LT1

CMcCarthy

Out of curiosity, did you ever call McLeod directly and ask them about cobbling together a bellhousing kit? They make a universal bell for the LS1 and an adapter for the Cobra T-56, hell maybe they could combine some of the pieces from the two kits for you and come up with what you need. You REALLY should just call and ask. The worst that can happen is they'll say "sorry, we can't help".

Mcleod Tech - (714)630-3668

30th TA 0219

mention to McLeod they may be able to sell them. There are plenty of Stang Ls1 cars in the works...I would be interested in one when the time comes!

jbk240z

Give me some time to pull up some pics, and I'll try posting them in a bit.