Cam Only Dyno Thread
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From: columbus,IN
here we go....2002 camaro Z28 M6
cam: 234/236 duration 605/609 lift 112 lsa
stock ls6 intake
stock throttle body
lid and k&n filter
long tubes with 3" true duals dumped with borla xr1 mufflers
4.10 gear with stock 10bolt
Tunned by Mike Norris Motorsports!!!!
cam: 234/236 duration 605/609 lift 112 lsa
stock ls6 intake
stock throttle body
lid and k&n filter
long tubes with 3" true duals dumped with borla xr1 mufflers
4.10 gear with stock 10bolt
Tunned by Mike Norris Motorsports!!!!
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untouched 243 heads
236/240 .610 .615 112
Ported FAST 90
tuned by Jeremy Formato
462 rwph 418 rwtq
On a different dyno a month later, put down 458 416
Lingenfelter CAI
Pacesetter LTs with catless mids. Also have DMH electric cutouts. Only picked up 2-5 rwhp with the cutouts but got of tq down low... weird. I will post up a graph tonight.
Car has an 11.50 in it... maybe an 11.40. 11.61 pass I shortshifted 4th :/ only trapped 116, with the best trap being well into 120.
Stock drivetrain as well, aside from the clutch and it is a 6 speed. Car drives beautifully and can turn the worst day right around.
236/240 .610 .615 112
Ported FAST 90
tuned by Jeremy Formato
462 rwph 418 rwtq
On a different dyno a month later, put down 458 416
Lingenfelter CAI
Pacesetter LTs with catless mids. Also have DMH electric cutouts. Only picked up 2-5 rwhp with the cutouts but got of tq down low... weird. I will post up a graph tonight.
Car has an 11.50 in it... maybe an 11.40. 11.61 pass I shortshifted 4th :/ only trapped 116, with the best trap being well into 120.
Stock drivetrain as well, aside from the clutch and it is a 6 speed. Car drives beautifully and can turn the worst day right around.
so weird that most of the cams i see here(small to mild) are giving out about the same numbers.
some of the smaller cams( t224 wit or a 224/228 5.78-.575 lift) are roughly making the same as say a comp 230-238 with 595-605 lift.....
is this casue of tune???
some of the smaller cams( t224 wit or a 224/228 5.78-.575 lift) are roughly making the same as say a comp 230-238 with 595-605 lift.....
is this casue of tune???
Last edited by 1991ls13; Mar 21, 2010 at 02:08 AM.
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From: Houston, TX
In some cases yes, but i would say it mainly has to do with what direction you go in with mods. Some people go all out and pay for nothing but top notch and make sure they have every area covered before their cam swap or theres people that slap on a lid and exhaust and do their cam swap. Of course the one with every bolt on is gunna perform better after a cam. There is also the variety of cam lobes plus just the smallest change in valve events can drastically change your engine. If you took two identical cars that had a different tune your results could vary also. Haha i guess what im trying to say after this huge paragraph is that there are too many variables. hope this helps
Last edited by ThaBirdWS6; Mar 22, 2010 at 02:16 PM. Reason: grammar error
thanks birdws6,
reason i say this is because i was looking into the ms3, and looked on youtube and there are a few that sound very nice, almost stock, then others that sound like popcorn lol
i`ve searched for countless hours, and still dont know how big i can go cause i always see big cam sound nice but then some dont, usually do to the LSA but still. from my research it seems as my dd, ((although only drive about 3 miles a day)), i can go 236-242 and .615 .620 with a 114 lsa, since the ms3 is in that ball park..... seems like the ms3 can hold good power up top cause im looking for something that kicks in mid range but then halls A$$ up top around 3.5k to redline.
reason i say this is because i was looking into the ms3, and looked on youtube and there are a few that sound very nice, almost stock, then others that sound like popcorn lol
i`ve searched for countless hours, and still dont know how big i can go cause i always see big cam sound nice but then some dont, usually do to the LSA but still. from my research it seems as my dd, ((although only drive about 3 miles a day)), i can go 236-242 and .615 .620 with a 114 lsa, since the ms3 is in that ball park..... seems like the ms3 can hold good power up top cause im looking for something that kicks in mid range but then halls A$$ up top around 3.5k to redline.
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Cam: Custom Comp... 231/235 617/621 @110+2 LSA
Powerbond UDP
PRC dual springs
Hardened pushrods
Spintech Super Pro mufflers & X-pipe
K&N Drop-in filter
404whp/389wtq
Stock manifolds, cats,catback,intake... rest of the car is stock!!!
(Bone stock baseline was 326hp/324tq same shop and dyno.)
Powerbond UDP
PRC dual springs
Hardened pushrods
Spintech Super Pro mufflers & X-pipe
K&N Drop-in filter
404whp/389wtq
Stock manifolds, cats,catback,intake... rest of the car is stock!!!
(Bone stock baseline was 326hp/324tq same shop and dyno.)
untouched 243 heads
236/240 .610 .615 112
Ported FAST 90
tuned by Jeremy Formato
462 rwph 418 rwtq
On a different dyno a month later, put down 458 416
Lingenfelter CAI
Pacesetter LTs with catless mids. Also have DMH electric cutouts. Only picked up 2-5 rwhp with the cutouts but got of tq down low... weird. I will post up a graph tonight.
Car has an 11.50 in it... maybe an 11.40. 11.61 pass I shortshifted 4th :/ only trapped 116, with the best trap being well into 120.
Stock drivetrain as well, aside from the clutch and it is a 6 speed. Car drives beautifully and can turn the worst day right around.
236/240 .610 .615 112
Ported FAST 90
tuned by Jeremy Formato
462 rwph 418 rwtq
On a different dyno a month later, put down 458 416
Lingenfelter CAI
Pacesetter LTs with catless mids. Also have DMH electric cutouts. Only picked up 2-5 rwhp with the cutouts but got of tq down low... weird. I will post up a graph tonight.
Car has an 11.50 in it... maybe an 11.40. 11.61 pass I shortshifted 4th :/ only trapped 116, with the best trap being well into 120.
Stock drivetrain as well, aside from the clutch and it is a 6 speed. Car drives beautifully and can turn the worst day right around.
streetsweeper cam from New Era, ed C
236/240 .630/.612 111+3 t56 steel flywheels and DS, 28" Drs, 2OTL, paper filter, belt on. Dana 60 w 4:30 gears
425/393
236/240 .630/.612 111+3 t56 steel flywheels and DS, 28" Drs, 2OTL, paper filter, belt on. Dana 60 w 4:30 gears
425/393
Last edited by studderin; Jan 23, 2011 at 10:57 AM.
Guess I better post up
Torquer V2 232/234 595 598 112 +2
28# injectors, lid
Self polished tb and descreened maf
Stock intake, heads, and rear gear
Hooker LT's with pacesetter ORY and blowmaster CB
378/357 on mustang dyno
Still in process of self-tuning. Had help with local tuning expert to make a great pull. VE still needs work so I do have some drivability issues. Im 90% sure most of it is the tune, not the cam. Idles smooth at 900 with some cam lope. Hoping for intake, injectors, and back on spray by fall.
Torquer V2 232/234 595 598 112 +2
28# injectors, lid
Self polished tb and descreened maf
Stock intake, heads, and rear gear
Hooker LT's with pacesetter ORY and blowmaster CB
378/357 on mustang dyno
Still in process of self-tuning. Had help with local tuning expert to make a great pull. VE still needs work so I do have some drivability issues. Im 90% sure most of it is the tune, not the cam. Idles smooth at 900 with some cam lope. Hoping for intake, injectors, and back on spray by fall.
Mods in sig. I will have my car back tomorrow after the cam swap and tune. Hoping for the 360-375 range after its all said and done. I will gladly post up when I get my new numbers. I would like to thank you all for the posts so far. I have learned a lot and done more research since I have been following this thread. All champs in my book.
Stock LS1 intake, 85mm 'Vette MAF, 232/238 & .595/.605 @ .050 on a 112lsa, Hooker LTs & ORY stock catback(!cat), M6, 3.42s, CC918 springs and CC pushrods, LS7 clutch/flywheel, K&N FIPK, everything else is stock.
Put down 383hp/365tq open cutout, 377/365 through the catback. Driveability is great, but that's all in the tune. Pulls like a freight train after 3,700ish RPMs all the way to 6,500. Could definitely use some 4.10s though.
I see all these cam only guys putting down over 400 to the tire and I keep wondering why I'm behind and it's because ya'll are running LS6 or better intakes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s01BOX_yCS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iwIvMJT_wk&NR=1
Put down 383hp/365tq open cutout, 377/365 through the catback. Driveability is great, but that's all in the tune. Pulls like a freight train after 3,700ish RPMs all the way to 6,500. Could definitely use some 4.10s though.
I see all these cam only guys putting down over 400 to the tire and I keep wondering why I'm behind and it's because ya'll are running LS6 or better intakes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s01BOX_yCS8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iwIvMJT_wk&NR=1
Launching!
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From: Greenhaven/ South Sacramento 'Burbs
2000 Camaro SS M6
TR 224/224 114
LS6 Manifold
P/P TB
SLP Lid
Accel 30lb injectors
Powerbond U/D Pulley
EBay Stainless 1-3/4" LT's
ORY
3" OOTL Exhaust (No Muffler)
383/370 on dynojet
This was through a 10-bolt with 4.10 gears. Driveability of cam is great. Super smooth idle, good fuel economy, pulls hard all through the band. Will pass CA emissions with factory manifolds and cats.
TR 224/224 114
LS6 Manifold
P/P TB
SLP Lid
Accel 30lb injectors
Powerbond U/D Pulley
EBay Stainless 1-3/4" LT's
ORY
3" OOTL Exhaust (No Muffler)
383/370 on dynojet
This was through a 10-bolt with 4.10 gears. Driveability of cam is great. Super smooth idle, good fuel economy, pulls hard all through the band. Will pass CA emissions with factory manifolds and cats.
