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Old 11-20-2009, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
You won't find a jap car with low end torque, its like an oxymoron. For some reason they like turbo lag and gutless low end power.
You're an idiot.
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Originally Posted by Wesmanw02
Obviously thats not a street tune. Its running 100 octane.
Taken from the thread it was posted in:
A buddy of mine and I took our 2010 GT-Rs down to see Tim at Surgeline in Portland today. Mine's 100% stock - 0 physical mods. I had it on 101 octane unleaded for safety. At 17psi, it makes some crazy power: 540whp/570wtq. . . over and over and over again. smile.gif My buddy made very similar numbers today on 92 octane, but with the addition of a Y-pipe and another pound or so of boost. We were all stunned to see the 2010s responding so well.
http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=35087

^At just 17psi his could easily be running on pump gas with the same tune, aside from that the cars bone stock.
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And there are N/A LSX motors making 1000 hp whats your point?
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Is 'suck it' out of context here?


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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
You're an idiot.
Ya, I am going to have to agree with you here. I can think of a few 6 cylinder FI Nissan torque monsters from the past.

I don't know if you have a Z31 still, but that VG30et produces a hell of a lot of low end torque, especially when you start modding it.
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
And there are N/A LSX motors making 1000 hp whats your point?
Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Is 'suck it' out of context here?


That 440ci (did they go bigger?) LSX from SAM is the only 1000HP N/A LSX engine in the world.....just saying.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
That 440ci (did they go bigger?) LSX from SAM is the only 1000HP N/A LSX engine in the world.....just saying.
I'm not trying to claim this is a normal thing.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
That 440ci (did they go bigger?) LSX from SAM is the only 1000HP N/A LSX engine in the world.....just saying.


I saw a few in 800 and 900s when looking it up.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
Have you ever driven a car with direct injection and a turbo? ie; Mazdaspeed 3 or Cobalt SS? Torquey little ******* for being a 4 cylinder and almost no turbo lag to speak of.
Little being the operative word. Good cars, but torquey relative to their size.

I like'em all but I do find it interesting that Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW (until next generation), Lexus (LF-A), Viper and Corvette all continue to develop their track/race oriented cars without forced induction. The ZR1 is not truly the track/race oriented model.

I wish I could comment more on the Audi R8 race car that was turbocharged but road circut racing and turbocharging brings up entirely different variables that probably don't apply to the street. Things that I would guess such as small turbos that are EXPECTED to be replaced regularly and boost and octane levels that are not streetable either.

Another factor is if the engine/car is even streetable. 9000rpm may sound cool but how long will the motor last?

I would consider something like what Hot Rod? magazine does for their quickest street car competition: The car must be able to complete a 15? mile stop-n-go and highway circuit, must run/compete on 91octane and for this discussion no nitrous.

Once all that is said and done, I suspect the big hp cars with TT kits like Heffner's, Hennessy and Underground Racing about about as good as it gets.

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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Little being the operative word. Good cars, but torquey relative to their size.

I like'em all but I do find it interesting that Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW (until next generation), Lexus (LF-A), Viper and Corvette all continue to develop their track/race oriented cars without forced induction. The ZR1 is not truly the track/race oriented model.

I wish I could comment more on the Audi R8 race car that was turbocharged but road circut racing and turbocharging brings up entirely different variables that probably don't apply to the street. Things that I would guess such as small turbos that are EXPECTED to be replaced regularly and boost and octane levels that are not streetable either.

Another factor is if the engine/car is even streetable. 9000rpm may sound cool but how long will the motor last?

I would consider something like what Hot Rod? magazine does for their quickest street car competition: The car must be able to complete a 15? mile stop-n-go and highway circuit, must run/compete on 91octane and for this discussion no nitrous.

Once all that is said and done, I suspect the big hp cars with TT kits like Heffner's, Hennessy and Underground Racing about about as good as it gets.
So the Porsche 911 Turbo and Twin Turbo GT2 aren't race oriented cars? Both of them rev to around 7000 RPM and are both extremely streetable.
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
You're an idiot.
Exactly why are you posting on this forum?
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Originally Posted by Corvee
Exactly why are you posting on this forum?
You dont know?

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Originally Posted by bearcatt
Hahaha ... This video is making my day.

There are plenty of clean low mileage C6 Corvettes out there for about the same or less than that 370Z.

This is only within a 100 miles of my area.
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1257264194493


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Who woulda thought the price of Vettes would drop so low that ricers would start picking them up.
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Originally Posted by Sarge_13
So the Porsche 911 Turbo and Twin Turbo GT2 aren't race oriented cars? Both of them rev to around 7000 RPM and are both extremely streetable.
The 911 TT is a GT car and the GT2, while certainly more focused and track oriented, isn't the factory "racer" - the GT3 line is from both a street and track perspective.

In fact, Porsche just announced a 480hp GT3 R which suprised me since their new Cup Car is 450hp.
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Little being the operative word. Good cars, but torquey relative to their size.

I like'em all but I do find it interesting that Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, BMW (until next generation), Lexus (LF-A), Viper and Corvette all continue to develop their track/race oriented cars without forced induction. The ZR1 is not truly the track/race oriented model.

I wish I could comment more on the Audi R8 race car that was turbocharged but road circut racing and turbocharging brings up entirely different variables that probably don't apply to the street. Things that I would guess such as small turbos that are EXPECTED to be replaced regularly and boost and octane levels that are not streetable either.

Another factor is if the engine/car is even streetable. 9000rpm may sound cool but how long will the motor last?

I would consider something like what Hot Rod? magazine does for their quickest street car competition: The car must be able to complete a 15? mile stop-n-go and highway circuit, must run/compete on 91octane and for this discussion no nitrous.

Once all that is said and done, I suspect the big hp cars with TT kits like Heffner's, Hennessy and Underground Racing about about as good as it gets.
9,000rpm does sound cool actually... and my car's at 91k miles and still going, and I can promise you atleast 70k of those are HARD miles.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
9,000rpm does sound cool actually... and my car's at 91k miles and still going, and I can promise you atleast 70k of those are HARD miles.
The 9k rpm was brought up for the pushrod 1000hp NA LSx motor.

Your car is nowhere near that kind of power.
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
The 9k rpm was brought up for the pushrod 1000hp NA LSx motor.

Your car is nowhere near that kind of power.
Wait, you mean my ~200rwhp car isn't anywhere close in power to a 1,000hp drag car? I don't believe you...
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i can't believe what happened to this thread.
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