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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Would you FI guys be interested in slapping on some 275's and running heads up with nitrous guys?

I am gauging interest in order to make a proposal to the guys at NMCA. Between the nitrous guys and FI, I don't think a qualified 16 car field would be difficult.

Rules would have to be refined, but it would involve something to the effect of a single 88, no wheelie bars, and a few weight breaks.

Any thoughts?
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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I think a class limiting to 275's and a mid frame (and true tip to tip) 88 would be pretty cool.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
Would you FI guys be interested in slapping on some 275's and running heads up with nitrous guys?

I am gauging interest in order to make a proposal to the guys at NMCA. Between the nitrous guys and FI, I don't think a qualified 16 car field would be difficult.

Rules would have to be refined, but it would involve something to the effect of a single 88, no wheelie bars, and a few weight breaks.

Any thoughts?

We would gladly help with the rules if you need anything.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Agreed something i would really like to see.
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275's are the future for race programs on a somewhat modest budget. Plus, it levels the playing field a little. Let's us nitrous guys back into the game.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Guys have gone 7.50s on 275 M/Ts.

Only thing you will have is the slower DR guys that cant compete bolting smaller tires and turbos on to make the rules and then guess what happens..

Only way the 275 stuff works for a modest budget is nitrous small block only IMO.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DrTurbo
We would gladly help with the rules if you need anything.
Definately would appreciate any help when it comes to the FI side of this. I guess the big question would be how to maintain the heads up spirit of the class, yet keep things from getting out of hand.
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Guys have gone 7.50s on 275 M/Ts.

Only thing you will have is the slower DR guys that cant compete bolting smaller tires and turbos on to make the rules and then guess what happens..

Only way the 275 stuff works for a modest budget is nitrous small block only IMO.
LSX guys have gone 7.50's on 275's? My idea for ET was probably mid 8's
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jmill96Z
LSX guys have gone 7.50's on 275's? My idea for ET was probably mid 8's
Not LS cars (yet) but the tires dont know what kind of engine the cars has. I bet any of the LS cars running on 295s would still be faster than any LS N2o car on 275s and then you have the same thing you have now in drag radial..
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Not LS car but the tires dont know what kind of engine the cars has. I bet any of the LS cars running on 295s would still be faster than any LS N2o car on 275s and then you have the same thing you have now in drag radial..
True LOL


I guess that's why I was suggesting to limit the turbo guys to an 88. I think that would keep the middle of the road DR guys from throwing 275's on.
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KP those guys going 7's have big blocks, F3's and big turbo's.

A strait 88mm can only feed so much power.

Your know what a F1R can do I suspect.

and you could always put some weight on the turbo cars...

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How about a 235 class lol.
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IMO, the only way nitrous cars are going to be competitve, make it 1/8th mile. Nitrous can not compete with the way a turbo car back halfs.
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Keep turbos and blowers at 3400, no motor plates, 275-60-15 max, max of YSi, Turbo true midframe 88, dunno about ATI blower, and nitrous gets one plate no foggers.

If you want to make it even slower, limit to 3400 for turbo/blower, max of 80mm mid frame turbo, Vortech T-Trim, and D1SC. That will start out as a low to mid 9 second class.
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What does a motor plate have to do with the class?
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Keep turbos and blowers at 3400, no motor plates, 275-60-15 max, max of YSi, Turbo true midframe 88, dunno about ATI blower, and nitrous gets one plate no foggers.

If you want to make it even slower, limit to 3400 for turbo/blower, max of 80mm mid frame turbo, Vortech T-Trim, and D1SC. That will start out as a low to mid 9 second class.
John check out ORSCA's new Hot-street rules.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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The thing about this though is it should not be a street car class. Nitrous should be able to run whatever they can fit under the hood, and have appropriate weight breaks. Put the turbo guys on an 88. If their car has a 25.2 cert so be it.

DrTurbo, it's funny you mention Hot street--On another site, there was a 20+ page thread with almost the exact same discussion on the rules.

If nitrous and FI are going to truly be competitive together in a class, there are limits that would have to be put on the FI cars, and be a little more generous towards the nitrous cars. Just the facts. I think the Shootout could benefit from theis class, but it needs to be right (between rules and estimated interest/buzz) before it ever gets presented to NMCA.
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Mightymouse has gone 8.77 with a midframe 88, heavy car too. If you are trying to keep this class +/- 9.00 you'd limit the turbos to 76mm, single kit like a 7_ pill?, and a T-Trim or D1SC... Kinda like the ORSCA rules except they allow a 9_ jet and bigger blowers I think.

I'd consider running a 275 class but not a nitrous only class, you wont' get a strong enuff turnout if you limit it to one adder.
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PSCA Wildstreet.

The fastest nitrous car is a BBC and goes 7.90's, the turbo cars a .2 faster without breaking a sweat. they outlawed BBC and F3's for next year. F2 max or 98mm turbo
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Keep turbos and blowers at 3400, no motor plates, 275-60-15 max, max of YSi, Turbo true midframe 88, dunno about ATI blower, and nitrous gets one plate no foggers.

If you want to make it even slower, limit to 3400 for turbo/blower, max of 80mm mid frame turbo, Vortech T-Trim, and D1SC. That will start out as a low to mid 9 second class.
What are you smokin?

one kit, no fogger against a 88mm turbo? or an F1R...
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