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Old 04-23-2010, 06:44 PM
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got some more stuff done.

cut the cowl back to the windshield and installed a sheetmetal blockoff...got the top part welded...need to do the bottom still...I HATE SHEETMETAL WORK!!!



mounted one of the spill plates on the wing...still need to shape it some to make it aesthetic


mounted the master disconnect and started on the dual parachute mount (pull point). I'm waiting on hardware to mount the chutes...should have early next week
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Lookin good!
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finished the dual chute pull-point. Just need to fab up and mount the chutes to the car

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Old 04-29-2010, 10:30 AM
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Been busy this morning. Got the wing struts on and the chutes mounted



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Man that looks like a race car now!!! Looks like you are making good progress. Are you on vacation this week?

Why did you put those 'side' panels on the wing? What do they do?
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Originally Posted by White.Lightning
Man that looks like a race car now!!! Looks like you are making good progress. Are you on vacation this week?

Why did you put those 'side' panels on the wing? What do they do?
took off today and tomorrow so I can get stuff done haha

the side panels are "spill plates" and they are part of what makes the wing work to create downforce...
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
It is what it is. I'll do what has to be done, same as everyone else that's learned from scratch.

I mean yeah sure I could pay someone to just tune it and be done with it, I mean Job Spetter's a big check away if I wanted to do that route.... but I'd rather not have my **** locked so I can't change anything when I need to.

Not whining.. just stating it's gonna make for a long friggin process. Is what it is... chances are the whole gear driven supercharger won't even work/make the power I hope it will anyway. Hell I can see getting this whole thing done and not going a lick faster.
So I was just catching up on Fireball's build when I stumble across this little side conversation. Anyways, it's funny because Steve and I were just talking about this yesterday while waiting to get into the track.

Once you start going pretty fast and are trying to squeeze eveything out of a setup, it is never really "done" until it blows up. In order to be able to play at this level, you have to either have the tuning skills required to tweak your own setup (regardless of whether it is computer controlled, mechanical or both), or you have to have someone in your crew that can do it. To have to pay for a tuner to go out with you once a week to get **** dialed is unrealistic. Specially thanks to little unexpected bullshit bugs that can end your night in a hurry.

The internet is a vast wealth of knowledge. I taught myself how to tune about 3 years ago. Spent many hours reading. Boring reading. The first thing that I would suggest that someone new to tuning do is compile a list of acronyms as you are reading and get their definitions. That's the most confusing part when trying to follow along or actually understand WTF they are talking about. Start with the a good understanding of the main tables and then work your way over to the millions of modifier tables as they apply to the main tables that you just got an understanding of (broke all grammar rules). I think that learning on an aftermarket system would have been an easier place to start. Much less complicated. Hind site is 20/20.
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Looks great. Love the double parachute

The wing looks great. Love the carbon-fiber.

How close are you? This year some time?

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Paint it already, geesh! I'm dying to see the finished product!
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started on the hot side piping....got it all tacked up. Yes...it fits under the hood with several inches to spare


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Beautifull merge!
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Really nice work Brian! Looks awesome!
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Originally Posted by Navy David SS

How close are you? This year some time?

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still a long ways out...still thinking next spring...
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Looks like the plan was worked to a T. It will be interesting to see how well these changes work. I have a feeling we're going to be ok. And the wastegate is going in the same place we talked about? Doesn't it feel good to be a baller?
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Looks like the plan was worked to a T. It will be interesting to see how well these changes work. I have a feeling we're going to be ok. And the wastegate is going in the same place we talked about? Doesn't it feel good to be a baller?
Almost to a T...took some creative cutting and massaging to get it to all fit together...if the turbo was 1-2" more forward it would have been a piece of cake I think trying to keep the two legs somewhat equal will help in the long run for tuning balance

Yes...planning on putting the WG on the elbow like we talked about...I'm going to play around with that today....with any luck I'll get it 100% welded this afternoon...
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I like the new design a lot. This car is gonna rip. I think we may need some more chutes though
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Originally Posted by Fireball
Almost to a T...took some creative cutting and massaging to get it to all fit together...if the turbo was 1-2" more forward it would have been a piece of cake I think trying to keep the two legs somewhat equal will help in the long run for tuning balance

Yes...planning on putting the WG on the elbow like we talked about...I'm going to play around with that today....with any luck I'll get it 100% welded this afternoon...
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Originally Posted by Fireball
started on the hot side piping....got it all tacked up. Yes...it fits under the hood with several inches to spare



Can you retain A/C with that setup....

Sorry, it just seems like the typical response to turbo setups.

It looks great, keep up the progress reports.
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Originally Posted by The Alchemist
Can you retain A/C with that setup....

Sorry, it just seems like the typical response to turbo setups.

It looks great, keep up the progress reports.


the ac works great-Brian is putting the upgraded 2-200 ac on it.

2 windows 200mph
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Who makes those water pump adapters?
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