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Old 05-07-2010, 09:49 AM
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Been waiting on this for a few weeks so here it is!! Its burkhart's air to air setup that is good for 1500hp. Let me know what you guys think...
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Thats bad ***. What did this run you if you dont mind me askin.
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Originally Posted by 99LS6SS
Thats bad ***. What did this run you if you dont mind me askin.

Right around 1k but I had one of their bumper supports I never installed which that let me swap. So its prob about a $1350 setup... but its def not cheap ebay cores... they are garret bar and plate cores
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Not bad....but you did ask for opinions. First some people make 1500 hp with no intercooler so anyone that gives them a hp rating at all isnt really thinking about the true nature of its use. It changes the tune, via air density by reducing temperature. It is possible to simply not be able to flow enough air, but if thats the case, then it probably wasnt cooling long before that. Ussually seen on blower cars that still spike the iats.

How much area does it have? Lxwxh?

The only things I dont like about it is the inlet and outlet are directly opposed, so its possible since air takes the path of least restriction seeking low pressure that most of the air may simply flow through the center, with very little comming from the top or bottom of the tanks. Being so thick the rear core may not do much cooling either, being heat soaked due to little air flow and heated air.

None of that really matters though, if when you use it, you see substantial iat drop compared to what ever you did have, at the same psi level then it works.
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How thick is the core? very nice setup!
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Originally Posted by 2002RamAir
Been waiting on this for a few weeks so here it is!! Its burkhart's air to air setup that is good for 1500hp. Let me know what you guys think...
Is this the front support that allows the fogs to be kept?
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thats big
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I like it alot! Might need to have one of these!
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That Support is awesome. Core is huge.
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wow thats badass!!! i had talked to them a few weeks back about doing the same thing!
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The fog lights have to go with this setup... The core is 18x12 and 6in thick. The cool thing is how burkhart mounted the ic... my washer tank can now stay for my meth kit from alkycontrol
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Center in and out is the most efficient way to do the tanks with an A2A. Nice IC. Looks like they welded 2 18X12X3's together. I have a 24 X 12 X 6 core on mine and it seems to work great.
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It looks to me like a very nice set-up! You'll have to post on how well it does. Bob
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Very nice. Wonder how my epp fmic would fit in that front support?
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Center in and out is the most efficient way to do the tanks with an A2A. Nice IC. Looks like they welded 2 18X12X3's together. I have a 24 X 12 X 6 core on mine and it seems to work great.
Who makes that massive 24x12x6 core?
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I like that A LOT
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Originally Posted by 98Z28CobraKiller
Center in and out is the most efficient way to do the tanks with an A2A. Nice IC. Looks like they welded 2 18X12X3's together. I have a 24 X 12 X 6 core on mine and it seems to work great.
Can you support your statement? Effeincy is what exactly? The path of least resistence? Or the path with creates an equal pressure drop across all tube rows? I think having the in and out center to each other causes the highest flow, but reduces the cooling. The pressure drop caused by the engine (out) will draw from directly across from the core (the in). Its possible the core is so large that it doesnt matter in the real world, but its also possible that most of the air is drawn through the center 3-4 rows and the air speed is high and cooling is compromised because of it. Some temp readings off the core on the dyno would tell the story though. If the center is higher then the top or bottom then its an issue, if not....its cool, literally.
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Originally Posted by 2002RamAir
Been waiting on this for a few weeks so here it is!! Its burkhart's air to air setup that is good for 1500hp. Let me know what you guys think...
Very nice. Burkhart has a great reputation. How do you like the front support? Im thinking about getting one for my build here soon. Just noticed burkhart seems to be the only one to build them. I already have an air to water intercooler.
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Originally Posted by 1320
Can you support your statement? Effeincy is what exactly? The path of least resistence? Or the path with creates an equal pressure drop across all tube rows? I think having the in and out center to each other causes the highest flow, but reduces the cooling. The pressure drop caused by the engine (out) will draw from directly across from the core (the in). Its possible the core is so large that it doesnt matter in the real world, but its also possible that most of the air is drawn through the center 3-4 rows and the air speed is high and cooling is compromised because of it. Some temp readings off the core on the dyno would tell the story though. If the center is higher then the top or bottom then its an issue, if not....its cool, literally.
If the centre cores are the only ones with air passign through them, wouldn't the presure drop be massive? surely as the air enters the IC it hits the turbes and encounters a restriction. the air will then 'find' the path of least restriction, ie the other tubes.

Also, let say you build an intercooele thats 3 feet tall and 3 feet wide, ie totally massive and way over kill. even if the air is only passing through the center of the core, wouldn't the heat transfer to the out sections of the core and still provide wooling? after all ally makes for a very effecitve heat sink dose it not?

I am not teying to be an **** here, just thinking about things and typing. lol i think end tank design is somehting that is not really looked at very much in the aftermarket world. I have seen F1 turbo setups with end tanks that look stupid, but they work VERY well and get very even air distribution.

also how dose putting the air through a 270 degree bend (pipe inital 90degree bend then the 180 degree to bring the air inline with the tubes) compear to simply butting the pipe to the end tank at 90 degrees to the core? if you shaped the end tank (i have sene this done on a Noble) would that not be better at getting even air distributuion than the air hitting the tubes head on?

Just think out side the box.

Cheers,

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Thanks for the compliments. We can also do A2W setups. I have one on my car.


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