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Old 10-11-2012, 12:12 AM
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Gonna be starting a new build and just want to make sure that I have all of my bases covered. Suggestions are welcomed.

Engine
Stock crank
Compstar rods
-8.6cc diamond pistons
Custom cam 230/242 115+3 .6xx/.6xx (Canadian corvette performance speced)
Ported 317 heads
Ls6 intake

Fuel
Lonnie's double pumper
-10an feed line split to 2 -8s to aftermarket rail (haven't decided on the brand)
Factory feed as my return
Boost referenced FPR
Meth injection kit (looking for suggestions on brand)
80lbs injectors

Blower
F1a kit from Brute speed
FMIC
Aster bracket

Trans
Jakes stage 4 4l80e
Jakes converter

Rear
Moser M9 (could use suggestions on gears)


Boost/fuel pressure/wide band/Trans temp gauges will also be in for monitoring and ECS would likely be tuning the car.

Am I missing anything?

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Looks like a solid plan!

Gear ratio will be based on how much power you're going to make, what size tire and how high you're gonna spin it, lastly weight. Obviously with a blower setup you want to be at peak rpm thru the trap. I assume you'll run a 28" tire. I'd probably guess a 3.73 would be in the ball park. 7000 thru the trap...



If you're gonna make around 850 rwhp, the above guess ta mate should get you in the 145-148 mph range at 3800lbs.
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
Gonna be starting a new build and just want to make sure that I have all of my bases covered. Suggestions are welcomed.

Engine
Stock crank
Compstar rods
-8.6cc diamond pistons
Custom cam 230/242 115+3 .6xx/.6xx
Ported 317 heads
Ls6 intake

Fuel
Lonnie's double pumper
-10an feed line split to 2 -8s to aftermarket rail (haven't decided on the brand)
Factory feed as my return
Boost referenced FPR
Meth injection kit (looking for suggestions on brand)
80lbs injectors

Blower
F1a kit from Brute speed
FMIC
Aster bracket

Trans
Jakes stage 4 4l80e
Jakes converter

Rear
Moser M9 (could use suggestions on gears)


Boost/fuel pressure/wide band/Trans temp gauges will also be in for monitoring and ECS would likely be tuning the car.

Am I missing anything?

I recommend Alky Control for the methanol kit.

I'd run a -10 return line if the car will be driven much on the street. Using the factory line for the return can cause the fuel to heat up. If you're kicking on the 2nd pump on under boost then the stock line would be okay, but I still recommend a larger line. I would also go with teflon lines, today's fuels will tear up rubber lines and the fuel smell also leaches out of braided lines.

i agree with ajrothm, if you're going to use a 28" tall tire, I would go with 3.70/3.75 gears.
Have you checked out my prices on Moser M9's? Bob
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
I recommend Alky Control for the methanol kit.

I'd run a -10 return line if the car will be driven much on the street. Using the factory line for the return can cause the fuel to heat up. If you're kicking on the 2nd pump on under boost then the stock line would be okay, but I still recommend a larger line. I would also go with teflon lines, today's fuels will tear up rubber lines and the fuel smell also leaches out of braided lines.

i agree with ajrothm, if you're going to use a 28" tall tire, I would go with 3.70/3.75 gears.
Have you checked out my prices on Moser M9's? Bob
I'll do some research on Alk Control

I'm up the the air about running a hobbs switch or running a larger return and leaving both pumps constantly running (a hobbs switch is just one more thing to fail). Thanks for the suggestion about the teflon coated lines, ill make sure that the ones that i get are.

I just looked at your prices on M9s and ill probably be ordering that from you as well (obviously not in one shot haha)
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
I'll do some research on Alk Control

I'm up the the air about running a hobbs switch or running a larger return and leaving both pumps constantly running (a hobbs switch is just one more thing to fail). Thanks for the suggestion about the teflon coated lines, ill make sure that the ones that i get are.

I just looked at your prices on M9s and ill probably be ordering that from you as well (obviously not in one shot haha)
I agree on the Hobbs switch, I'd prefer to use a larger return line and have both pumps run all the time.

Thanks, I appreciate it! Bob
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...-800-rwhp.html

This is the same cam that i would be using except ill be running an F1A rather than a D1SC
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Is E-85 or E-99 available to you?

Looks like a nice setup based on what I've gleaned from lurking here.
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Originally Posted by N2OBaby
Is E-85 or E-99 available to you?

Looks like a nice setup based on what I've gleaned from lurking here.
E85 is but only at 1 station and i would be worried about not having it when I traveled with the car for car show weekends and stuff. I could run 2 tunes I suppose but that would require me paying for 2 tunes and 100+ lbs injectors. Trying to keep the build fairly simple and purely a street car
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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed
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Have you checked out my prices on Moser M9's? Bob

i have bob. i very well may get one from you. i noticed there is also a chrome oley rear end as well? what is the total weight savings on that? by any chance do you know? vs the 10 bolt or regular M9


i may consider it over MWC
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I would suggest Alky Control for your meth kit.
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Everything looks good, if you haven't purchased the injectors yet get some FIC 1000's. Never hurts to have more injector and they tune in great.

I agree 100% with everyone on the Alky Control kit-best hands down.

I run the LP kit, 1 pump runs all the time and second is triggered via a Hobbs switch. No issues 5+ years later. I run a -8 feed and a factory return.
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Originally Posted by eb02z06
Everything looks good, if you haven't purchased the injectors yet get some FIC 1000's. Never hurts to have more injector and they tune in great.

I agree 100% with everyone on the Alky Control kit-best hands down.

I run the LP kit, 1 pump runs all the time and second is triggered via a Hobbs switch. No issues 5+ years later. I run a -8 feed and a factory return.
Just worried about melting something if the second pump doesn't turn on. Is there a fail safe that you can set in the tune?
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Originally Posted by F110Mech
Just worried about melting something if the second pump doesn't turn on. Is there a fail safe that you can set in the tune?
i have a fuel pressure gauge on my pillar. ill know if it drops.
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Originally Posted by I8UR4RD
i have a fuel pressure gauge on my pillar. ill know if it drops.
I understand that (hence mentioning the gauges I'll have) and I'll have a wide band as well but I was hoping for something in the tune maybe?
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That is why 3-255's sounds if something fails. it should fall down on its face to hard to get hurt
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Originally Posted by js2fst
That is why 3-255's sounds if something fails. it should fall down on its face to hard to get hurt
Not really sure what you were trying to say here.....

I'm assuming that a speed density tune is the way to go since im looking to run around 20psi? I just emailed ECS to see if they'll tune it since they dont have F-Bodies listed anywhere on their page



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