Attention all KY-Turbo Customers, Supporters, and Friends:
12-04-2012, 10:09 PM
#282
Now let me say this. I am not saying that the situation between you and Josh is settled, because obviously it's not. There are, however, two sides to this story that are drastically different. What the resolution will be, I'm uncertain. Trust me, if I were in your shoes I would be every bit as pissed off as you are, no doubt about it.
12-04-2012, 10:19 PM
#283
Well luckily, that's not what he was doing. He decided to keep the doors open in hopes that he could work his way out of the situation, completing everyone's vehicles in the process.
There is not a building at his house. He expressed a desire to build one months ago, but he was unable to due to the obvious financial situation.
As a one man operation, he can only take on so much work. If he took on every little job, there would just be more pissed off customers without anything to show for their money.
Why in the hell would an engine builder need a turbo kit to build a motor? That is about the most ludicrous thing I've heard in my life. You know why? I had a motor built long before I got in touch with Josh.
There are two sides to every story. 75% of the people posted in this thread don't have a ******* clue, and are basing opinions on what people are saying, when those people can't even formulate a coherent sentence.
That is a very valuable contribution to this thread.
That business is shot thanks to this thread. RaceFab's success was everyone's only hope at receiving the work they had previously paid for. So great job.
And the parts purchased with that money were stolen, as is the case with a few people, including myself. If you didn't like how he ran his business, then why would you fork money over to him? That makes ZERO sense.
The point of an inside job is to collect insurance money, and Josh had no insurance. What would the point in this be? If there is one, please enlighten us all and I will drastically change my tone. Until that occurs, your speculation means precisely dick.
Truth be told, I am in the same boat as many of you. I began speaking with Josh while I was still deployed in Iraq. We shot some messages back and forth and decided what the game plan was. I arranged to have my car taken to his shop. While admittedly, my car did sit for a long time, I was 6,000 miles away and my car was not at the top of the list to get done, which is totally logical.
Fast forward to the break-in, I am now stateside again. The only thing missing from my build was my turbo. Seeing first hand just how much **** went missing, I knew that everything was going to slow down drastically. At that point, I could've demanded to get my money back, but what good would that do? A guy with no insurance just lost thousands in assets that weren't his, that he now has to attempt to cover. I spoke with Josh multiple times after this while fiasco. He told me that things would be taken care of, but the time frame was shaky at best.
At this point, I decided to downsize my build. I moved from the single 91mm, to twin 62s, eventually settling on the single 76 that Josh delivered to me just last week. If my car complete? No. Will it be tomorrow? Nope. But I bet you'll see me at a few LSx events next year rocking a KYTP setup. Patience is a virtue.
There is not a building at his house. He expressed a desire to build one months ago, but he was unable to due to the obvious financial situation.
As a one man operation, he can only take on so much work. If he took on every little job, there would just be more pissed off customers without anything to show for their money.
Why in the hell would an engine builder need a turbo kit to build a motor? That is about the most ludicrous thing I've heard in my life. You know why? I had a motor built long before I got in touch with Josh.
There are two sides to every story. 75% of the people posted in this thread don't have a ******* clue, and are basing opinions on what people are saying, when those people can't even formulate a coherent sentence.
That is a very valuable contribution to this thread.
That business is shot thanks to this thread. RaceFab's success was everyone's only hope at receiving the work they had previously paid for. So great job.
And the parts purchased with that money were stolen, as is the case with a few people, including myself. If you didn't like how he ran his business, then why would you fork money over to him? That makes ZERO sense.
The point of an inside job is to collect insurance money, and Josh had no insurance. What would the point in this be? If there is one, please enlighten us all and I will drastically change my tone. Until that occurs, your speculation means precisely dick.
Truth be told, I am in the same boat as many of you. I began speaking with Josh while I was still deployed in Iraq. We shot some messages back and forth and decided what the game plan was. I arranged to have my car taken to his shop. While admittedly, my car did sit for a long time, I was 6,000 miles away and my car was not at the top of the list to get done, which is totally logical.
Fast forward to the break-in, I am now stateside again. The only thing missing from my build was my turbo. Seeing first hand just how much **** went missing, I knew that everything was going to slow down drastically. At that point, I could've demanded to get my money back, but what good would that do? A guy with no insurance just lost thousands in assets that weren't his, that he now has to attempt to cover. I spoke with Josh multiple times after this while fiasco. He told me that things would be taken care of, but the time frame was shaky at best.
At this point, I decided to downsize my build. I moved from the single 91mm, to twin 62s, eventually settling on the single 76 that Josh delivered to me just last week. If my car complete? No. Will it be tomorrow? Nope. But I bet you'll see me at a few LSx events next year rocking a KYTP setup. Patience is a virtue.
12-04-2012, 10:25 PM
#285
Homeboy? Nice. I never named anyone in association with these statements, only that they would sound familiar to someone in this thread. Obviously, that was you as you are the only person who had any type of reaction to them.
Now let me say this. I am not saying that the situation between you and Josh is settled, because obviously it's not. There are, however, two sides to this story that are drastically different. What the resolution will be, I'm uncertain. Trust me, if I were in your shoes I would be every bit as pissed off as you are, no doubt about it.
Now let me say this. I am not saying that the situation between you and Josh is settled, because obviously it's not. There are, however, two sides to this story that are drastically different. What the resolution will be, I'm uncertain. Trust me, if I were in your shoes I would be every bit as pissed off as you are, no doubt about it.
12-04-2012, 10:56 PM
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I'm not involved, but I'm disappointed. Real disappointed. Was just talking to Chris P from Louisiana on the phone.
I'm disappointed in people I know. Josh. This is just terrible Josh. I saw you at LS Fest, we didn't talk because well, you know where I stand with my friend Harold. Brian Hogan, I'm very disappointed in you too. You are friends with Josh, and I thought you had better character than this. I really did. I got you an NMCA press pass for the one of the fall races. We talked in person. You did the wrong thing. You should have put a stop to this too.
I'm in it for the racing, the racers, the community. It's a dark dark day when someone rips off other members of the community. Josh went off the rails, but it wasn't always that way. But you have done bad things sir.
Josh, the phone lines are lit up, lawyers are getting hired, law enforcement is aware of this. I'm just hearing some of this stuff. You could try to make this right. This is that moment of truth. No more excuses. We all make mistakes. This is the moment of truth. After this it's all going to go bad. Please stop blaming everyone else, own your own mismanagement and try to make it right. You yourself said you would not repeat the mistakes of others. You are doing it now. You can stop this.
/old disappointed racer
I'm disappointed in people I know. Josh. This is just terrible Josh. I saw you at LS Fest, we didn't talk because well, you know where I stand with my friend Harold. Brian Hogan, I'm very disappointed in you too. You are friends with Josh, and I thought you had better character than this. I really did. I got you an NMCA press pass for the one of the fall races. We talked in person. You did the wrong thing. You should have put a stop to this too.
I'm in it for the racing, the racers, the community. It's a dark dark day when someone rips off other members of the community. Josh went off the rails, but it wasn't always that way. But you have done bad things sir.
Josh, the phone lines are lit up, lawyers are getting hired, law enforcement is aware of this. I'm just hearing some of this stuff. You could try to make this right. This is that moment of truth. No more excuses. We all make mistakes. This is the moment of truth. After this it's all going to go bad. Please stop blaming everyone else, own your own mismanagement and try to make it right. You yourself said you would not repeat the mistakes of others. You are doing it now. You can stop this.
/old disappointed racer
12-04-2012, 11:22 PM
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Harold is the one who started this post, and all he got was HATED ON!!!!!!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...nce-break.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...nce-break.html
12-04-2012, 11:24 PM
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This pic was sent to me, someone local that Josh apparently sold the 62 twins to and other stuff, who's stuff was this?
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...pg&h=YAQH_BbgZ
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...pg&h=YAQH_BbgZ
12-05-2012, 12:04 AM
#296
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...eil-33006.html
12-05-2012, 12:04 AM
#297
Harold is the one who started this post, and all he got was HATED ON!!!!!!
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...nce-break.html
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-in...nce-break.html
12-05-2012, 12:04 AM
#298
http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...eil-33006.html
12-05-2012, 12:09 AM
#299
So everyone living in Bowling Green is your homeboy?
Josh didn't intentionally **** you over. After being robbed, he used money that had been paid to him by other customers, you and me both included, to begin to cover the cost of items stolen from his shop. In doing so, he depleted himself of the resources necessary to cover his *** in the event that people started pulling the plug on their respective builds, which is exactly what happened. I am not defending that decision, and not only I, but Josh will also tell you that that was his biggest mistake. I'm sorry that everything has fallen to shambles regarding his company for all interested parties, as it's hard on everyone, and even more so you because you invested so much up front. That is a debatable choice as well, but I'm not here to pick nits. The bottom line is that there are no darker undertones to what happened here. Josh made a poor business decision and is now paying the price for it by losing his company. He didn't take your $22k to build his car, or a building, or to buy beer, or anything like that. He leveraged his company with our money, and that ultimately led to his downfall.
Josh didn't intentionally **** you over. After being robbed, he used money that had been paid to him by other customers, you and me both included, to begin to cover the cost of items stolen from his shop. In doing so, he depleted himself of the resources necessary to cover his *** in the event that people started pulling the plug on their respective builds, which is exactly what happened. I am not defending that decision, and not only I, but Josh will also tell you that that was his biggest mistake. I'm sorry that everything has fallen to shambles regarding his company for all interested parties, as it's hard on everyone, and even more so you because you invested so much up front. That is a debatable choice as well, but I'm not here to pick nits. The bottom line is that there are no darker undertones to what happened here. Josh made a poor business decision and is now paying the price for it by losing his company. He didn't take your $22k to build his car, or a building, or to buy beer, or anything like that. He leveraged his company with our money, and that ultimately led to his downfall.
He needs to get his priorities strait.And I am not aware of him replace any parts for any one or refunding money for anyone. So what did he do with not just my money but everyone else money + the donations + the bank loan of $50,000. The only thing I seen out of him doing was buying stuff for the shop. He should have took that money from the bank and made things right with Harold, Chris and myself. That would have left him with around $7500. He could have used the rest to make or to start making things right with someone else. So just in that decision alone told me that he had no attention of making things right with anyone. He was more concerned about getting stuff for the shop.
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12-05-2012, 12:37 AM
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jesus christ. this whole thing sounded shady to begin with, but i gave them the benefit of the doubt and felt bad for the "robbery" and their situation. now i feel stupid for giving him sympathy. i couldnt imagine being in any or your guys shoes and having parts / money GONE! this guy surely cannot get away with this. best of luck to you all.