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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 03:20 PM
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well that sucks lol

its only like $6 a month.
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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 03:29 PM
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its only like $6 a month.
thats steep for one episode a month.
60 or 72 bucks a year is cheap but when you think about it per episode it’s expensive lol
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Originally Posted by Drj8787
thats steep for one episode a month.
60 or 72 bucks a year is cheap but when you think about it per episode it’s expensive lol
Except as already said, you arent just paying for Engine Masters.
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Old Apr 27, 2019 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Drj8787
thats steep for one episode a month.
60 or 72 bucks a year is cheap but when you think about it per episode it’s expensive lol

you get ALL KINDS of other shows too. It’s cheap considering what you get.
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Old May 9, 2019 | 08:24 AM
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I dunno man, seems ok. But as for track times, prolly low 11s @122-125mph.

Reading back through this thread and you were dead on. went 11.20 at 125 lol. impressive estimation skills!
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Old May 9, 2019 | 08:49 AM
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Reading back through this thread and you were dead on. went 11.20 at 125 lol. impressive estimation skills!
Thanks man, I'm fairly decent at guessing ET/trap. However......a few years ago, I was off by like 3 SECONDS and 60mph on a 3rd gen. Figured it was the typical 3rd gen turd. Was generous by thinking it might crack a high 11 @ 115 or so. Even snickered as he did his burnout, thinking all this for what MIGHT be an 11 second pass?? After he completed his 8.30 @ 175mph pass, I was very much humbled.

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Old May 9, 2019 | 10:19 AM
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Thanks man, I'm fairly decent at guessing ET/trap. However......a few years ago, I was off by like 3 SECONDS and 60mph on a 3rd gen. Figured it was the typical 3rd gen turd. Was generous by thinking it might crack a high 11 @ 115 or so. Even snickered as he did his burnout, thinking all this for what MIGHT be an 11 second pass?? After he completed his 8.30 @ 175mph pass, I was very much humbled.

So, what do you think it'll run on 12psi?

to be exact, 7ish in 1st, 10psi in second and 12psi in third?

the 11.20 was with a leaking crossover due to a broken v band clamp. 7-8psi is what it would hold but drop off.
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Old May 9, 2019 | 10:39 AM
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So, what do you think it'll run on 12psi?

to be exact, 7ish in 1st, 10psi in second and 12psi in third?

the 11.20 was with a leaking crossover due to a broken v band clamp. 7-8psi is what it would hold but drop off.
Same et. Maybe 2mph more. What's with the step up each gear? At that boost, you need to be footbraking what you can, and it needs to be ALL the boost out the gate. You are in no danger of breaking traction on gear changes at that power.
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I’ll play...

10.9x at 128 mph go get it...
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I’ll play...

10.9x at 128 mph go get it...
I like this answer better lol.


I will say this. From 7 psi to 12 psi, it feels like 100hp. Even the videos I have videoing the speedo and tach, are noticeably a good bit faster.
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Same et. Maybe 2mph more. What's with the step up each gear? At that boost, you need to be footbraking what you can, and it needs to be ALL the boost out the gate. You are in no danger of breaking traction on gear changes at that power.

Same et and two mph. Ouch. You cut me deep. Lol


i don’t want a bunch of boost right at first. Trying to not break the engine, trans and axles.

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When are you headed back to the track?
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When are you headed back to the track?

Im not sure. I need to get the other few things done to the car I had planned before I run it again. I’ve been driving it a lot but trying not to beat on it.
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Same et and two mph. Ouch. You cut me deep. Lol


i don’t want a bunch of boost right at first. Trying to not break the engine, trans and axles.
If you wreck an Ls engine that has a good tune from 12 psi, it was trash to begin with.....same for the transmission, which has been well established to be trash, even behind stock mills (along with upgraded ones which we've seen in the transmission section). I say same ET and maybe a small bump in trap because, it seems like no matter what, those GTOS never seem to be very fast, no matter how much power they make. Now, before I get jumped on, sure there are a few fast ones here and there, but for the most part they rarely perform well.
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Originally Posted by Game ova
If you wreck an Ls engine that has a good tune from 12 psi, it was trash to begin with.....same for the transmission, which has been well established to be trash, even behind stock mills (along with upgraded ones which we've seen in the transmission section). I say same ET and maybe a small bump in trap because, it seems like no matter what, those GTOS never seem to be very fast, no matter how much power they make. Now, before I get jumped on, sure there are a few fast ones here and there, but for the most part they rarely perform well.
My gto never made good 1/4 times, but 129mph trap speeds and 150mph+ straightaways with an inadequate fuel system at road atlanta still put a smile on my face. These are heavy IRS cars. They are not 1/4 mile cars, and they are not pure sports cars. They are comfortable touring cars.
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I decided I might need more exhaust flow. The down pipe I had was crushed and hammered to fit in between the frame and the manifold. I bought 3.5” oval tubing. Should pick up a bit of flow. I drove it around the block and you can now hear the exhaust turbine. Never could before. I didn’t get on it because the steering bolt was grabbing the exhaust wrap. I have to address that. But in the mean time, here’s some pics. Came out pretty nice.








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If you wreck an Ls engine that has a good tune from 12 psi, it was trash to begin with.....same for the transmission, which has been well established to be trash, even behind stock mills (along with upgraded ones which we've seen in the transmission section). I say same ET and maybe a small bump in trap because, it seems like no matter what, those GTOS never seem to be very fast, no matter how much power they make. Now, before I get jumped on, sure there are a few fast ones here and there, but for the most part they rarely perform well.
I agree with you on the GTO chassis, they don’t make good drag cars and that is widely known. This is my second one. The first one I bought new in ‘04 and had it running low 10’s within a few years while being a daily driver. That took 632 rwhp and 1.6x 60’ times.

Back then on the forums it was obvious the GTO owners were a different type of person for the most part than your average Fbody owner. That combined with the GTO not being a good drag car chassis and low aftermarket support led to disappointing track times for the mods/money.

This led anyone that actually put 1/4 times as a high priority to go with an fbody rather than a GTO.

Fast forward to today with falling prices and a different type of owner and more 8 second GTOs are popping up along with some possible 7 second cars that only run 1/8th mile. Certain comforts are given up to run those times which most Gto owners aren’t willing to do. Huron made a post about a possible kit for the gto and the comments seemed to push them toward dropping the idea.

Following in the Facebook gto group you will see some cam only cars in the 10’s and plenty of 9’s with spray, but you’ll also see plenty of big inch boosted motors running the same times. The fbody is certainly cheaper and easier to run 9’s or even 8’s, but if you show up with a gto you’ll likely be the only one there which has value to me.

The fbody is the better drag car by by a landslide, but it can be done with a gto with an owner that wants to put the focus on drag strip and spend the time/money to make it work. I don’t think a 5.3 works near as well in a heavy gto either. Most the fast GTOs have bigger inch motors and turbo, big prochargers, or lots of nitrous.
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I agree with you on the GTO chassis, they don’t make good drag cars and that is widely known. This is my second one. The first one I bought new in ‘04 and had it running low 10’s within a few years while being a daily driver. That took 632 rwhp and 1.6x 60’ times.

Back then on the forums it was obvious the GTO owners were a different type of person for the most part than your average Fbody owner. That combined with the GTO not being a good drag car chassis and low aftermarket support led to disappointing track times for the mods/money.

This led anyone that actually put 1/4 times as a high priority to go with an fbody rather than a GTO.

Fast forward to today with falling prices and a different type of owner and more 8 second GTOs are popping up along with some possible 7 second cars that only run 1/8th mile. Certain comforts are given up to run those times which most Gto owners aren’t willing to do. Huron made a post about a possible kit for the gto and the comments seemed to push them toward dropping the idea.

Following in the Facebook gto group you will see some cam only cars in the 10’s and plenty of 9’s with spray, but you’ll also see plenty of big inch boosted motors running the same times. The fbody is certainly cheaper and easier to run 9’s or even 8’s, but if you show up with a gto you’ll likely be the only one there which has value to me.

The fbody is the better drag car by by a landslide, but it can be done with a gto with an owner that wants to put the focus on drag strip and spend the time/money to make it work. I don’t think a 5.3 works near as well in a heavy gto either. Most the fast GTOs have bigger inch motors and turbo, big prochargers, or lots of nitrous.
This is how I feel. I didnt want a drag car. I wanted a nice, comfortable and fairly quiet car, something decently fast.......but something different than everyone else.
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One thing about GTO’s is I get a lot of comments about it. More often bad then good, but it gets noticed. I’ve never seen a car have more people go out of their way to tell me something negative about it. I see plenty of things I don’t like and don’t feel the need to tell the owner I don’t like your car...lol.

For now my car is about perfect for a street car around 650 rwhp, full weight with all the comforts of a 31,000 mile car. I do want a forged motor and a lot more boost to eventually run mid 9’s in a couple years though. I’d like to do it full weight driven to and from the track as well.

Im thinking some of the newer Camaro’s weigh as much as us with IRS and run good times. Again a more popular car with aftermarket support and guys spending big bucks to do it.

A clean gto can be had for 10-15 grand easily then another 25 to run 9’s while keeping it nice. So you’re still under 40g which is way cheaper than some of these late model cars. Sure they need less mods, but the $$$ are still there.
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One thing about GTO’s is I get a lot of comments about it. More often bad then good, but it gets noticed. I’ve never seen a car have more people go out of their way to tell me something negative about it. I see plenty of things I don’t like and don’t feel the need to tell the owner I don’t like your car...lol.

For now my car is about perfect for a street car around 650 rwhp, full weight with all the comforts of a 31,000 mile car. I do want a forged motor and a lot more boost to eventually run mid 9’s in a couple years though. I’d like to do it full weight driven to and from the track as well.

Im thinking some of the newer Camaro’s weigh as much as us with IRS and run good times. Again a more popular car with aftermarket support and guys spending big bucks to do it.

A clean gto can be had for 10-15 grand easily then another 25 to run 9’s while keeping it nice. So you’re still under 40g which is way cheaper than some of these late model cars. Sure they need less mods, but the $$$ are still there.

Ive never had someone tell me they don’t like my car. Not once. Maybe some jokers on the internet saying how heavy it is (they must live under a rock because most of the newer muscle cars weigh more, so why say that? Idiots I guess). I’ve never had someone say something bad about my car in person, should I say. In fact, just the opposite. I’ve had a couple people make me take their name and phone number in case I ever want to sell the car.

My 2011 1SS camaro (lightest version v8 you could get) weighed 4060lbs with me in it. Half tank of gas. I weigh 185. So yea, it weighs more than my gto. And the front suspension had a rattle in those cars from the factory that they never could fix.
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